Esther and all,
Esther Dyson wrote:
> Ken, I've already said most of what I have to say, and you can go find it
> and repeat it as well as I can.
>
> I think ICANN is heading in more or less the right direction despite its
> many imperfections, and I want to help make it better. It is not governing
> the world, and god forbid *anything* should be put to a global vote. It is
> trying to organize bottom-up courtesy of the people most concerned with the
> Net's infrastructure, and draw them in through outreach. It implements its
> policies through contracts, not by "governing."
I along with Ken and so many others would like to believe you, Esther
would like to make ICANN better. But the track record thus far
does not bare that out in reality. "The internet is for everyone", Esther,
that means everyone on the planit/Globe, therefore it would be a wonderful
thing for every one to VOTE on these dictated "Contracts" by which you
correctly point out ICANN is using as tools for Global management of
the Internet. SO I along with MANY others DO see the ICANN using
Contracts as a form of Global governing for the Internet... But I must
say you equivocate here very well...
>
>
> (PS - what on earth does feminism, whatever that is, have to do with any of
> this?)
Well I have to agree with you here.... >;)
>
>
> Esther
>
> At 09:23 pm 11/23/1999 -0700, Ken Freed wrote:
> >Esther --
> >
> >May I offer a general observation on your IFWP postings?
> >Terse retorts to report fragments avoid the larger issues.
> >Many would welcome a more meaningful exchange here.
> >
> >Will you address the legitimacy of a governance body that's
> >presuming to govern without the consent of the governed?
> >There has never been a global vote giving permission
> >for ICANN to become our global Internet government.
> >
> >How can you, a freedom advocate, a feminist, remain
> >blind to ICANN as the toy of boys who would be kings?
> >Are you fooling yourself into thinking your values rule?
> >Will generations yet unborn praise or condemn you?
> >
> >Read your own words about the values needed today.
> >http://www.media-visions.com/dyson.html. Good stuff.
> >
> >Walk away, Esther. Be the one who saves the world.
> >
> >-- ken
> >
> >_________________________________________________
> >
> >Our Visions Create the Media as the Media Create our Visions.
> >_________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >>We are not sending anyone (or if we are, it's news to me, and I should
> >>know). Why should we?
> >>
> >>Esther Dyson
> >>
> >>At 04:40 pm 11/22/1999 +0100, Mark R Measday wrote:
> >>>Is is possible to know what representations ICANN has made, or which
> >>>observers have been sent by ICANN to the WTO conference in Seattle next
> >>>month?
> >>>
> >>>MM
> >>>Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
> >>> name="measday.vcf"
> >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>>Content-Description: Card for Mark R Measday
> >>>Content-Disposition: attachment;
> >>> filename="measday.vcf"
> >>>
> >>>Attachment Converted: C:\EUDORA\measda11.vcf
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
> >>chairman, EDventure Holdings
> >>chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax
> >>104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
> >>New York, NY 10011 USA
> >>http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org
> >>
> >>PC Forum: 12 to 15 March 2000, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
> >>Book: "Release 2.1: A design for living in the digital age"
> >>High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 2000, where would you like it?
> >>Barcelona, Edinburgh, Istanbul, other?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
> chairman, EDventure Holdings
> chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax
> 104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
> New York, NY 10011 USA
> http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org
>
> PC Forum: 12 to 15 March 2000, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
> Book: "Release 2.1: A design for living in the digital age"
> High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 2000, where would you like it?
> Barcelona, Edinburgh, Istanbul, other?
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