Esther --
Your attitude disenfanchises billions. Your distrust of the masses
is misplaced. I believe educated people will make the right choices.
You'd apparently rather side with those who prefer the masses be
kept ignorant. more easily led around by the nose. Your remarks to
me in our interview a few years ago do not jive with your views now.
Does absolute power truly corrupt absolutely? If so, I'm saddened.
I invite you to return to the ideas and ideals you that inspired EFF.
The reference to feminism alludes to the "boys and their toys"
power-play by the old boys network, WTO on down, which you
seem to be supporting via your blindness to how the men of
business have so often patted little girls on the head and told
them to go away. Can it be that you're so thrilled to have been
let into the boy's club that you now begin to behave like them?
I'm reminded of the closing scene in Orwell's "Animal Farm"
where the pigs and farmers start to look alike. Have a truffle.
Why keep ignoring that the ICANN power players are just little
boys trying to compensate for never feeling loved by Mommy?
Look around at the WTO meeting this week. Open your eyes.
Stop denying the discomfort in your soul, Esther. Walk away.
The Internet is public property; its future requires a public vote.
Privatization without a vote is a violation of our natural rights.
No one ever voted for ICANN. It is an illegitimate regime.
-- ken
>Ken, I've already said most of what I have to say, and you can go find it
>and repeat it as well as I can.
>
>I think ICANN is heading in more or less the right direction despite its
>many imperfections, and I want to help make it better. It is not governing
>the world, and god forbid *anything* should be put to a global vote. It is
>trying to organize bottom-up courtesy of the people most concerned with the
>Net's infrastructure, and draw them in through outreach. It implements its
>policies through contracts, not by "governing."
>
>(PS - what on earth does feminism, whatever that is, have to do with any of
>this?)
>
>Esther
>
>At 09:23 pm 11/23/1999 -0700, Ken Freed wrote:
>>Esther --
>>
>>May I offer a general observation on your IFWP postings?
>>Terse retorts to report fragments avoid the larger issues.
>>Many would welcome a more meaningful exchange here.
>>
>>Will you address the legitimacy of a governance body that's
>>presuming to govern without the consent of the governed?
>>There has never been a global vote giving permission
>>for ICANN to become our global Internet government.
>>
>>How can you, a freedom advocate, a feminist, remain
>>blind to ICANN as the toy of boys who would be kings?
>>Are you fooling yourself into thinking your values rule?
>>Will generations yet unborn praise or condemn you?
>>
>>Read your own words about the values needed today.
>>http://www.media-visions.com/dyson.html. Good stuff.
>>
>>Walk away, Esther. Be the one who saves the world.
>>
>>-- ken
>>
>>_________________________________________________
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>>Our Visions Create the Media as the Media Create our Visions.
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>>>We are not sending anyone (or if we are, it's news to me, and I should
>>>know). Why should we?
>>>
>>>Esther Dyson
>>>
>>>At 04:40 pm 11/22/1999 +0100, Mark R Measday wrote:
>>>>Is is possible to know what representations ICANN has made, or which
>>>>observers have been sent by ICANN to the WTO conference in Seattle next
>>>>month?
>>>>
>>>>MM
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>>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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>>>>Content-Disposition: attachment;
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>>>
>>>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
>>>chairman, EDventure Holdings
>>>chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax
>>>104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
>>>New York, NY 10011 USA
>>>http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org
>>>
>>>PC Forum: 12 to 15 March 2000, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
>>>Book: "Release 2.1: A design for living in the digital age"
>>>High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 2000, where would you like it?
>>>Barcelona, Edinburgh, Istanbul, other?
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>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
>chairman, EDventure Holdings
>chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax
>104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
>New York, NY 10011 USA
>http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org
>
>PC Forum: 12 to 15 March 2000, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
>Book: "Release 2.1: A design for living in the digital age"
>High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 2000, where would you like it?
>Barcelona, Edinburgh, Istanbul, other?