Ha!  Derek, let me know how that works, or if you happen to come up with a
better approach.

~d


On 5/16/07, derek bumpas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

being half asian, I have no problems reading it :-D

Thanks for the reply

On 5/16/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Wow... I am typing/sending faster than I can proofread today.  If you
> have trouble reading through the engrish, let me know. :)
>
> ~Dave
>
> On 5/16/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Derek, I would have to test that but I think you may be right.
> >
> > This is probably a better approach:  By taking the same approach my
> > first sugesstion, create an update() method in that object's stub CFC.
> > Pull out the query generated update method of reactor/projects/[your
> > project]/Dao/YourObjectDao.cfc, remove the offending field from the query
> > and place the editted query in your custom update() method in that stub
> > CFC.  That way you aren't jacking with generated project files.
> >
> > ~Dave
> >
> > On 5/16/07, derek bumpas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > If I override the method setTimeStamp(), doesn't Reactor still try
> > > to insert a value (null or whatever) in the SQL?  I understand that 
Reactor
> > > won't update data that hasn't changed,  but it's the insert SQL that is
> > > giving me trouble.
> > >
> > > Eric mentioned to override the sql code, but I'm trying to avoid
> > > that at this point.  I may end up doing that if that's the only way.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/16/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > First and foremost, to answer the original question from Derek, I
> > > > would look at possibly putting in a setWhateverTemstamp() field method 
in
> > > > the generated stub object cfc that basically overloads the default one 
that
> > > > is created that basically does nothing at all and lets MySQL do the
> > > > timestamping you are using.
> > > >
> > > > To Jeff/Eric, both Aaron Lynch and I have done extensive
> > > > development with Reactor.  I believe that it is amazingly powerful, yet 
it
> > > > has some performance problems that are impossible to ignore.  
Unfortunately
> > > > they are not limited to the areas that Eric described.  I don't believe 
that
> > > > it is dying, as evidenced by the email list the past week or so with 
some
> > > > talented developers looking under the covers at some issues that might 
be
> > > > part of the performance problem.  That said, without a doubt Transfer 
is the
> > > > new ORM  project that is getting the most (well-deserved) attention at 
the
> > > > moment.  It does some really intelligent caching, has a far smaller
> > > > performance footprint, is very flexible (for instance using decorators
> > > > around object as I did in my presentation) by use of the decorator 
pattern,
> > > > and offers the same custom abstracted querying that Reactor allows, but 
uses
> > > > a *FAR*  lighter approach with  TQL (Transfer Query Language) as 
opposed to
> > > > the Reactor OO Queries.  We still have Reactor as the ORM for a few
> > > > production applications such as InstantSpot, but we have had to manually
> > > > cache the heck out of everything.  There is very little "live" Reactor 
work
> > > > going on when you hit the applications.  The objects become way too
> > > > expensive especially when they have children iterators upon children
> > > > iterators.
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to hit me up off-list if you want further thoughts on
> > > > it... or come to a CFUG meeting!  We talk about this stuff all the 
time. :)
> > > >
> > > > ~Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/16/07, Jeff Lucido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Derek:
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to say this ... but Reactor may be a dying a breed let
> > > > > alone it folds under pressure. Take a look at Transfer (
> > > > > www.transfer-orm.com). It is an ORM as well, but more efficient
> > > > > and supposedly better under load than Reactor. We used Reactor for a 
project
> > > > > last year and had issues with load so we scrapped it before we went to
> > > > > production. Transfer supposedly addresses these issues and goes 
further. I
> > > > > have not used it yet, but saw an interesting demo of it at 
cfObjective() two
> > > > > weeks ago. I think Dave Shuck even did a preso using it at last weeks
> > > > > meeting. Dave S.: What is your experience with Reactor vs. Transfer?
> > > > >
> > > > > -JSLucido
> > > > >
> > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *derek bumpas
> > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:28 AM
> > > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > > *Subject:* [DFW CFUG] Reactor Question
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been spending a lot of time with Doug Hughes's reactor and
> > > > > am loving it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do have a quick question for you guys:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anyway to tell reactor to ignore a database column.  I
> > > > > have a MySQL timestamp field that is set to update on changes by 
MySQL.
> > > > > When using the Reactor objects, Reactor by default sets these to null 
(I'm
> > > > > not setting a value.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Derek
> > > > >
> > > > >
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