It sounds like you are not talking about link aggregation at all if you are 
going to use STP to handle failover between the various legs.  Basically, with 
link aggregation, you have 2  (or more) physical connections that you logically 
make 1 single, higher bandwidth connection.  In the event a link goes out, you 
simply lose the additional bandwidth it provides.  This needs to be setup on 
the switch AND the pfsense box to work correctly.

The best method to go about in any design is to Keep It Simple- dont over 
complicate the network if you can help it.  Granted, sometimes there are space 
/ power / budget issues that make you "work around" an ideal setup- but the 
best rule of thumb is to keep it as simple as you possibly can!  

If you need the bandwidth, link aggregate.  If you just want the redundancy, 
use stp or a derivative there-of and call it a day.  There have been some very 
good points brought up in your thread here that should be listened to and 
weighed appropriately for your environment.  You know it best.  I would highly 
recommend you do some heavy research on both STP and LACP/LAG and the benifits 
they each have. After you have layer 1 and 2 ideal, then you can work on layer3 
and up.  Even tho there is a layer4 instance of LAG......

I wish you the best in your endevors!

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf 
of Joseph Hardeman [[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:23 PM
To: 'pfSense support and discussion'
Subject: Re: [pfSense] NIC Failover

Interesting

I do now when building out a redundant network so that you have multiple paths 
to the same destination, you have to have some sort of method allowing traffic 
to be able to change its path if a switch or fiber in the middle goes down, 
while VLAN's do help in separating traffic RSTP allows for the quickest way for 
traffic to switch between network links.  For instance if you have a circle 
network (basically a loop) Spanning-tree or Rapid Spanning-tree helps manage 
what path is chosen, basically disabling the other path, and keeps the network 
from over running itself by the loop, just like OSPF also will help direct 
traffic by opening the shortest path.

Actually the LAGG I was speaking about was the LAGG configuring in pfSense not 
on the switch side, when the IP moved over to the failover NIC on pfSense then 
spanning tree would kick in on the vlan that is running that network and see 
that it is now available off a different leg than previously.

Now, I of course could definitely be wrong about spanning tree and the best way 
to manage a network, there a whole lot of smarter people out there than me and 
I am quite aware of my limitations.  :-)  So I am more than happy to hear and 
learn of a better way of doing things.  Anything I can do to make our lives 
easier I am happy to do.

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Thompson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:12 PM
To: Joseph Hardeman
Cc: 'pfSense support and discussion'
Subject: Re: [pfSense] NIC Failover

Most of the issues with STP are dealt with via 802.1w (rapid spanning tree)

On Sep 11, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Joseph Hardeman wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> So I can do the failover and yes all of the switches are managed.  I did see 
> where to setup the LAGG on the pfSense system.  I have to deconfigure the two 
> nics I want to use and then set them up in failover mode I think.  On the 
> switch side, I was using 2 separate switches with rapid spanning tree on 
> their uplink ports and ports to the pfSense system to assist in fast 
> failover.  I will give it a shot on Monday and see how it goes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Chris Buechler
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:04 AM
> To: pfSense support and discussion
> Subject: Re: [pfSense] NIC Failover
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Austin G. Smith <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I have had issues with stp on the firewall in this type setup previously.
>> Mileage may vary for others..
>>
>
> If you're bridging, yeah that can be a concern depending on your config. 
> Failover lagg without bridging won't cause any issues with STP though. May 
> see switches on occasion that have an issue with a MAC quickly moving from 
> one port to another related to its CAM table, or sometimes with security 
> features on the switch, but that's pretty unusual with typical switch 
> configs. And usually in that scenario you're going to be on two diff switches 
> anyway with failover lagg.
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