On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Oliver Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thinker Rix <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2013-10-09 19:38, Jim Thompson wrote: > So asking the question is stupid > > On 2013-10-09 19:50, Jim Thompson wrote: > IMO, this bullshit thread only serves to assist those asking the question in > stroking their own ego. > > On 2013-10-12 01:40, Jim Thompson wrote: > Otherwise: get off my lawn. > I'm not willing to endure this uninformed Alex Jonesian crapfest. > Now that I'm back on US soil, I promise that if the later continues, I will > kill the thread. People who hijack threads will be dealt with. > Otherwise: STFU. > > Nor will I endure the besmirching of pfSense's good name and trademark. > > The only one who is besmirching pfSense here is: you - given that as a > co-owner of ESF you are an official representative of pfSense - and your > official communication unfortunately shows that you are a vulgarian, > plebeian, obscene, scurrilous goon, who insults, threatens, bullys, censors > and muzzles other community members, totally lacking control of himself and > any professional business manners whatsoever, let alone any constructive > discussion culture. > > To me it feels highly awkward and it is unsettling me a lot, that such an > ill-mannered, shady and dubious roughneck like you holds a key position in > the project that creates the security product that we use for protecting our > networks. > > I have no idea why highly respected Chris Buechler partnered with you, but it > might be good if you would learn a lesson from him concerning his > professionalism, seriousness and manners in his official communication. > > Bye. > > I can't say I agree with Thinker Rix on everything but on this I do agree. I > have been on this list for many years (mostly just reading) and have always > been impressed with the professionalism of most members who write and > especially those affiliated with the project. I have been quite surprised and > disappointed in the attitude and tone coming from Jim Thompson this last week > and in my opinion THAT is what reflects poorly on the project. It may be that Jim simply saw what looked like a sock puppet come onto the list and start spreading FUD about ESF and pfSense. Normally, when you see what you consider to be a troll, the usually response is "don't feed the troll" and ignore the thread until it runs out of fuel. I guess the response is different, though, when someone is directing FUD at your company. Then, rather than annoyance and bruised egos, the damage can be more real and a more robust response might be warranted. It's up to Jim how he expresses himself. Given that "Thinker Rix" was doing a remarkable job of impersonating a troll (IMHO), I think the blunt approach is the pragmatic logical endpoint of that dialogue. It's sad, but dealing with trolls is a sad business. :-( Cheers, Paul.
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