If I may... I think Ryan is confused about the usb part. The SD slot is a onboard slot but its not connnected/wired to IDE/SATA bus, but rather it is connected to the USB bus just as a external usb card reader would be, but offcource its onboard and hardwired. Thus the confusion I assume. 27. aug. 2014 20:01 skrev "Jim Thompson" <j...@netgate.com> følgende:
> Ryan, > > I’m not sure what you’re asking. > > This thread started off with Sergii Cherkashyn asking if running on an SSD > was advisable. > > Obviously, it works, or we wouldn’t offer it. (The thread Sergii > pointed-to is from early 2011. Netgate did not ship SSDs for several > years because the reliability *then* was so poor. The situation changed, > and, once quality SSDs were available (*with power-fail capacitors, etc.*), > we began offering same. > > Then you jumped in asking (is) “SDHC slot on this board is simply for > show?” > > I honestly though you were trolling. Since there is a configuration of > the APU units available for sale both at the Netgate store *and* the > pfSense store (http://store.pfsense.org) that does not include a m-sata > drive, how else could the system boot pfSense? > > Now you post on a public list, (a list about pfSense), asking me to change > an unspecified page on (I assume), the Netgate site. > > Setting aside the whole issue of why we’re talking about this on-list, I > can’t find the text that confused you. > > Here is what I found on the Netgate site: > > http://store.netgate.com/APU1C4.aspx says: "Boot from SD card (connected > through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD.” > http://store.netgate.com/APU1C.aspx says: "Boot from SD card (connected > through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD." > > You may wish to note that this language exactly matches that found on the > PC Engines site: > "Boot from SD card (connected through USB), external USB or m-SATA > SSD.” > > ref: http://pcengines.ch/apu.htm, and http://pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm, > > and page 9 of the schematic for the APU ( > http://pcengines.ch/schema/apu1c.pdf) clearly shows that the “SD card > interface” runs through a Alcore Micro AU6465 ( > http://www.alcormicro.com/en_content/c_product/product_01b.php?CategoryID=7&IndexID=19) > to USB6 on the AMD T40 SoC. > > If you will be so kind as to make a specific request for change of the > language you found confusing, I’ll take a look at it. > You might even send such a request to me in-private, so as not to further > clutter the list. > > Right now, I can’t find a problem. > > JIm > > > > On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: > > > > Understood. Thank you for the clarification. > > > > Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? > It only says you can boot via SD through USB. > > > > -- > > Ryan Coleman > > ryanjc...@me.com > > m. 651.373.5015 > > o. 612.568.2749 > > > > On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card. Or from USB, > or from the m-SATA. > >> > >> All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like > device). > >> > >> Jim > >> > >>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can > be booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few > quotes I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead. > >>> > >>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson <j...@smallworks.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot > is a “base feature”. If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive, > >>>> then they can. Or they can use the SD card socket. > >>>> > >>>> It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not > going to be used. > >>>> > >>>> Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one > without). > >>>> > >>>> Jim > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Why not answer the question? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ryan, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Don't troll. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn < > ser...@accurategroup.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you Espen, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth. > >>>>>>>> On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep > your advice in mind. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>>>> Sergii Cherkashyn > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200 > >>>>>>>> From: Espen Johansen <pfse...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> To: pfSense support and discussion <list@lists.pfsense.org> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question > >>>>>>>> Message-ID: > >>>>>>>> < > caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many > writes in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering fine. > For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do you much good. > >>>>>>>> Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. > Approximately 10 times longer. And even more with the right write leveling > tech. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> List mailing list > >>>>>>>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>>>>>>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> List mailing list > >>>>>>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>>>>>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> List mailing list > >>>>>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>>>>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> List mailing list > >>>>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>>>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> List mailing list > >>>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> List mailing list > >>> List@lists.pfsense.org > >>> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> List mailing list > >> List@lists.pfsense.org > >> https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List@lists.pfsense.org > > https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List@lists.pfsense.org > https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list
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