On 06/08/24 14:57 (GMT-0500) Collin Davis apparently typed:

> On Aug 24, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

>> . How many active, in use, non-educational CSS files can you
>> find on my site where main content text is set to something other than
>> the user's default size and family? I count 0

> Source of http://mrmazda.no-ip.com

> body  {color: #5080C8;
>       background-color: #FEFEFE;
>       text-align: center;
>       font-family: sans-serif;
>       margin: .5em;}

> Where is the line drawn?  You've just overridden a user's possible  
> font color, alignment and font family preferences.

Not really. That page is 4,549 bytes, of which 1,989 bytes are CSS. 937
bytes make up the rest of <head>, leaving <body> at 1,623 bytes,
including markup. With markup removed, there remains a total of 411
characters, including spaces, line feeds, and carriage returns, none of
which are contained within <p> </p>. 251 of those 411 bytes make up a
disclaimer in the footer, and 16 are unavoidably contained in two
images. The 144 character balance, including whitespace, is title text,
and link text. So, even though the CSS body rule does specify
"sans-serif", and high contrat colors, and text alignment, there isn't
any _content_ text of the type I meant for it to apply to. It's a foyer
or mini-portal page, entirely the kind of "content" one would expect to
have "design" styles applied to. A title, three main links, and one
minor link in this case make up the "content".

> Surely if every user's preferences are so precious there should be no  
> author styles applied whatsoever, because there is the *possibility*  
> that it may vary somehow from the user's preference.

I don't think I've seen anyone in the thread say implicitly or
explicitly that no author styles should be used. That extreme position
is nothing if not ludicrous. The difference in actual positions is one
of degree of restraint, the difference between invoking a rule for every
possibility (maximum "control"), and dressing only the things that need
dressing to give a page/site a distinctive flavor (far less control).
Lest we forget, the vast majority of web page visitors are using
*personal* computers. There's no reason a good web page design can't be
a blend of both author and visitor personalization.
-- 
"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time
we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."   Galatians 6:9 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/


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