On 06/08/31 14:16 (GMT-0400) Harvey Ramer apparently typed:

> Maybe I just don't get this discussion, but it seems to me that style sheets
> were created to allow a user sheet to override the author's style sheet. In
> my opinion, all we need to do is be careful to keep code semantic and avoid
> gratuitous !important declarations. What more is needed?

User stylesheets as a practical matter are useless except to a subatomic
sized minority of users. Few users who aren't also web designers will
ever figure out how to use them, and even fewer will spend the enormous
amount of time it takes on each  typical site to locate and override the
overabundance of ID and class rules that make generic user style rules
virtually worthless.

I spent an obscene amount of time over the past several days doing just
that. Many sites I frequent work better with good styles than with zoom
or minimum or author style disabling. Some of those resulting
stylesheets I share with others: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/css/share/ .

The two I wasted the most time on recently were newegg.css and
redhat.css. Redhat's site styles are over 120k, while Newegg, which
still uses tag soup and tables for presentation, is a more typical
excess at 30k. Both result is some layout brokenness, but the results
are vastly more attractive and/or usable than the other options often
turn out to be. I spent the time on Redhat in part because of the bug I
filed almost two years ago to try to get rid of its px sizing:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=141361 . I filed a
similar bug more recently on Mandriva's bugzilla:
http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24695
-- 
"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time
we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."   Galatians 6:9 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/


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