Franky, I admire the attempts to subvert an obviously broken publishing
system. Maybe you are fixing the wrong problem.

In terms of web standards, what is to stop the developers simply pasting
an iframe or an object tag into the table cell, and doing the same thing
with perfectly valid code?

Geoff




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Meredith Kidby
Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WSG] two-headed babies look OK

Hi Folks

My University's website design is based on a table layout (no comments
needed!). The publishing system only allows the addition of content in
one area, which is actually a single table cell. Developers are expected
to use the minimum of HTML, and preferably no JavaScript at all. It's
pretty restrictive, and standard university web pages are fairly dull,
as you might imagine. 

Normally I'd be sympathetic to developers who bent the system rules a
bit (a few in-line styles etc).. But in the pages I'm bothered about, a
whole (or nearly whole) HTML page has been dumped into the (user content
area) table cell. Each page source is very lengthy, but you'll see what
I mean - just search for a second <head> or <html> tag.

http://www.rmit.edu.au/ad/arch ..
http://www.rmit.edu.au/industrial
http://www.rmit.edu.au/ad 

...and so on (plenty more of these in that part of the website)

It's been very difficult for me to make a case to change these pages,
because they look fine (if you don't check the structure). In fact they
look better than a lot of other pages on the university web site. Should
these pages  be changed.. or should *I* have my head examined? My main
question is - why do browsers allow this kind of mess to work?  

Cheers, Meredith Kidby

Teaching & Learning Online Group
Design & Social Context Portfolio
RMIT Univesity




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