Barney Carroll wrote:

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What I believe you're getting at... Is that 'horizontal rule' in itself does not 'mean' anything - it is off-putting because it is a tag whose name signifies a visual symbol which signifies an abstract value. Far better for all of us, I think, to have this replaced by the term 'separator' - which could be styled to appear as a horizontal rule if such is required of the medium the document is rendered in.

The <br> element is slightly more complex, because 'break' is a more useful term. As it happens, the only application of a <br> is to separate objects with a line-break - which is made redundant because it is possible to customize just such an effect with the natural separation of the two elements it divides. If <br> could be styled, I would far prefer to use that then an <hr>.

But we're all agreed, I hope, that having an element achieve this effect is much desired (even if it might be difficult for a machine to quickly interpret its value) - after all, it's long been in semantic use in human literature pre-ML. I think we're also all agreed that <separation> is a better name for such a thing.


Regards,
Barney


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<br/>?   <hr/>? etc.    How about <p>?

What does <p> actually  "mean" other than it's presentational attributes?

For example, does:

<p> Duis lobortis ultricies elit. Nunc et purus vitae risus venenatis molestie. Nullam scelerisque venenatis leo. Quisque sit amet leo at lacus rutrum iaculis. Sed auctor lorem eget nisl. Fusce pulvinar. Nunc varius pellentesque
        velit. </p>
<p> Nulla facilisi. Etiam vitae quam. Aliquam eget massa vitae pede tristique luctus. Maecenas iaculis suscipit felis. In lobortis wisi rutrum sem. Maecenas molestie ultricies mi. Mauris sit amet arcu. Aliquam erat volutpat.
        Praesent ullamcorper. Aenean feugiat erat in quam. </p>


'Mean' any more than:

Duis lobortis ultricies elit. Nunc et purus vitae risus venenatis molestie. Nullam scelerisque venenatis leo. Quisque sit amet leo at lacus rutrum iaculis. Sed auctor lorem eget nisl. Fusce pulvinar. Nunc varius pellentesque velit. Nulla facilisi. Etiam vitae quam. Aliquam eget massa vitae pede tristique luctus. Maecenas iaculis suscipit felis. In lobortis wisi rutrum sem. Maecenas molestie ultricies mi. Mauris sit amet arcu. Aliquam erat volutpat.
        Praesent ullamcorper. Aenean feugiat erat in quam. </p>

????

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Bob

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