Beautifully put Bob, a latin scholar!
<span lang="la">non serviam!</span>
I will not serve and I will continue using HR tags to visually separate
content,
Tim
On 06/02/2007, at 11:34 PM, Designer wrote:
Barney Carroll wrote:
[snip]
What I believe you're getting at... Is that 'horizontal rule' in
itself does not 'mean' anything - it is off-putting because it is a
tag whose name signifies a visual symbol which signifies an abstract
value. Far better for all of us, I think, to have this replaced by
the term 'separator' - which could be styled to appear as a
horizontal rule if such is required of the medium the document is
rendered in.
The <br> element is slightly more complex, because 'break' is a more
useful term. As it happens, the only application of a <br> is to
separate objects with a line-break - which is made redundant because
it is possible to customize just such an effect with the natural
separation of the two elements it divides. If <br> could be styled, I
would far prefer to use that then an <hr>.
But we're all agreed, I hope, that having an element achieve this
effect is much desired (even if it might be difficult for a machine
to quickly interpret its value) - after all, it's long been in
semantic use in human literature pre-ML. I think we're also all
agreed that <separation> is a better name for such a thing.
Regards,
Barney
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<br/>? <hr/>? etc. How about <p>?
What does <p> actually "mean" other than it's presentational
attributes?
For example, does:
<p> Duis lobortis ultricies elit. Nunc et purus vitae risus venenatis
molestie.
Nullam scelerisque venenatis leo. Quisque sit amet leo at
lacus rutrum
iaculis. Sed auctor lorem eget nisl. Fusce pulvinar. Nunc
varius pellentesque
velit. </p>
<p> Nulla facilisi. Etiam vitae quam. Aliquam eget massa vitae
pede tristique
luctus. Maecenas iaculis suscipit felis. In lobortis wisi
rutrum sem.
Maecenas molestie ultricies mi. Mauris sit amet arcu. Aliquam
erat volutpat.
Praesent ullamcorper. Aenean feugiat erat in quam. </p>
'Mean' any more than:
Duis lobortis ultricies elit. Nunc et purus vitae risus venenatis
molestie.
Nullam scelerisque venenatis leo. Quisque sit amet leo at
lacus rutrum
iaculis. Sed auctor lorem eget nisl. Fusce pulvinar. Nunc
varius pellentesque
velit. Nulla facilisi. Etiam vitae quam. Aliquam eget massa
vitae pede tristique
luctus. Maecenas iaculis suscipit felis. In lobortis wisi
rutrum sem.
Maecenas molestie ultricies mi. Mauris sit amet arcu. Aliquam
erat volutpat.
Praesent ullamcorper. Aenean feugiat erat in quam. </p>
????
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Bob
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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