Hi guys,

Thanks for the advice.  Some follow up questions..

1) Why is it so important to get a bike that hasn't been thrashed? As I understand it the only parts that will be kept are the frame, swing arm, fork, wheels and brakes. Everything else pretty much gets tossed. (signals and such not withstanding) Assuming that the forks and frame haven't taken any major damage is there really that big a concern over it being thrashed? Obviously the cost of a thrashed bike make them appealing, but I'm trying to understand what the main concerns are.

2) The reason I saw states that a 1L bike, specifically a CBR would make a good base is that it has an aluminum frame and swing arm, so is on the lighter end of things, but still has lots of room for batteries. That's what drew my attention towards this particular bike. Anybody know of a good source of naked frame (and swing arm?) weights for various bikes and years?

3) As stated I'm hoping to build a 48V bike using Lithium Ion packs from Thunder Sky. If I understand things correctly, building a 48V / 240A system would weigh approximately 211 lbs (using 16 cells) I like the idea of these batteries as it seems the smaller shape would lead to more flexibility in their placement within the frame.

Comments? Are these numbers way off? One question is what amperage most people are running on their packs and whether a 48V system such as this would be enough to meet my goals of ~10-20 miles with up to 50mph.

-Nic

On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Jeff Blamey wrote:

I agree, get the most complete functional bike you can find. 250cc to 750cc will probably net you a lighter bike, and less weight to move around is key. If you have to do frame mods to mount batteries, motor, etc. and that requires welding, then you better have access to a tig welder or someone with one. Lightweight square or round tubing in a perimeter frame may be a better deal (mine was square lightweight, easy to weld). If you can get a bike with decent tires and brakes, what a deal! Keep in mind you are using 15-20 horsepower to move mass, a lot easier task to move a bike that weighs 350 lbs than one of 650 lbs. My batteries (55AH AGMs) weighed 38 lbs. each x 6 is 228lbs. add in 22 lbs for the motor, 3-4 for the controller, then the charger(s), the weight of the battery holders/frame/box, cables... you get the point. If the batteries you are using are 60 lbs x 6 thats 360 lbs, man that is starting to be a lot of mass, and physically getting to be large and hard to package easily. You do want it to look like it was designed not thrown together? TRY not to change the geometry of the frame, okay enuf already...

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: john fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jul 10, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ElectricMotorcycles <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Newbie - Donor Bike Advice

advice:
stay away from beaters. this bike sounds like its thrashed. Better to get something in good running condition and sell
the motor on ebay.
just my 2 cents

John

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