What is the 12V charger rated at, weight and size?

I had one of 6 chargers fail (within 3 months which is about normal
for a component that is marginal to fail), I had two spares, no big
deal. I have $280 in the 2- 4 packs I bought. Soneils are running $40
each.

Cheers, Jeff   84 Franken'Ceptor



On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Wowk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Travis Gintz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > so, here's a Q, how is he going to take the pack OUT of series, and
> > put it into parallel for charging?
> >
> > Wouldn't that require a contactor for each battery to take it out of
> > series, and some relays to connect to the 12V charger bus?
> >
> > Or is his system going to be 12V....
> >
>
> The diagram is attached. Please note that the 12 fuses in the diagram should
> be rated for the full pack voltage.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Johnathan Vail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You are right they will balance each other out and charge to the same
> > level but that isn't really what you want.  You want the best charge for
> > the individual cell.  Any time you have multiple cells charged together
> > the stronger ones will beat up on the weaker ones.
> >
> >
> >
> > In extreme cases with high amp charges one cell will reach max charge
> > before the other one and the extra current could cause over heating of the
> > electrolyte
> >
>
> Maybe in a series string, but maybe not in a parallel configuration.
>
> It is voltage that forces overcharge, and in a parallel configuration of
> cells, the voltage would remain constant for each of them.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:32 AM David Herron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > One issue I haven't seen Andrew address is ... if you connect in
> > parallel two batteries who aren't at the same voltage.. clearly they're
> > going to try and equalize when you connect them, so there should be a
> > large spark.
>
> The voltage should be close, and I would not expect much current to flow.
> Connecting a fully charged battery in parallel with a discharged battery
> doesn't cause an alarming amount of current to flow with a big spark. We do
> it when we leave car lights on, and need a jump start.
>
> A potential problem I can see is if one battery has a shorted cell than it
> may draw a lot of current from the others. This appears to be like
> connecting a 5 cell battery in parallel with a 6 cell battery. I imagine
> this is a good reason for the fuses in the diagram.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:53 AM Jeffrey Blamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > If you do the one charger how will you properly charge all the
> > batteries to the same level... You are clearly making it harder on
> >
> > yourself to have to break the series connections between the
> > batteries.
> >
>
> At a CV of 14.7v, and a current of <.01CA, a battery is fully charged. If I
> wait until the current is .01CA of any one of n number of batteries in
> parallel at 14.7v, than that ensures that all of them will be fully charged
> before the charger cuts off. Holding the voltage at 14.7v for a 6-cell
> battery ensures that it will not be overcharged at room temperature.
>
> The intention is really the same as bank charging. I don't want or care to
> charge all of the batteries to the same level, I just need to charge every
> cell within the battery to 100%, and prevent cell damage due to
> overcharging.
>
> I think I'm making it much easier on myself. I'll have one simple charger
> with 1/6 the chance of failure of any one of 6 chargers failing.
>
> Andrew in NM
>

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