Trust me on this -- UCF is going to be a big, BIG, HUGE, ENORMOUS problem on
charging there!!!!!!  You wouldn't believe what I went through to be able to
charge there!!!  There is only one friggin' accessible 240V outlet in the
entire place ... that entire campus ... which is one of the biggest
university campuses in the entire state!!!  It took me weeks and weeks of
emails to find it and get permission to use it.  (By contrast, what a joy
and pleasure it is to work with Prof. Frank Leslie at FIT!!!  He da
MAAAAN!!!)  The only way you're going to be able to do the road rally either
to or from UCF is to have a big 70kW generator there (like Shawn always
arranges to have at BBB)!

Don't know anything about the Orlando Science Center; never been there.

Charles


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!

HI
Here at the Florida Solar Energy Center and Space Coast Clean Cities
Coalition we do.
Last year at the SunDay Challenge we had a hybird-electric vehicle
workshop all day on Monday.
We plan to do the same this year.

The Orlando Science Center in 47 miules  and UCF is 35 miles from FSEC.
We are trying to set the start and end locations for the event.

Bill Young

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Charles Whalen wrote:
> Good points, Cliff!  ... Bill? ...
>
> Charles
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cliff Ruffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jerry Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List"
> <[email protected]>; "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!
>
> Greetings:
>
> I've always wondered why we don't have classes at our events.  What about
> a
> class for lead acid at 20 miles, and a class for cars with extended range
> capabilities.  Also, how come hybrids get to race with electric-only cars?
> It seems a little incongruous to see a hybrid honda screaming through a
> course using his gas engine only!!!!  Just a thought.
>
> Cliff Ruffner
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!
>
>
>
>> Hi all,  Don't make a decision on my input, but the 30 miles last year
>> was
>> the limit for my pick up.  This year I plan on having a better car with
>> Lithium batteries, so I think 35 and maybe even 47 would be doable.
>>
>> Jerry Wagner-
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Charles Whalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Feb 7, 2008 12:49 PM
>>> To: FLEAA Mailing List <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Bill Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!
>>>
>>> Hi Bill and all,
>>>
>>> Cliff Rassweiler, Andrew Roddy, and myself all have over 100 mile range
>>> on
>>> our EVs, so no problem there for us on the range issue for the SunDay
>>> Challenge road rally.
>>>
>>> Could those of you with lead-acid conversions please answer Bill's
>>> question
>>> below about whether your cars can manage 35 miles?  How about 47 miles?
>>>
>>> I guess to some extent it depends on the speed driven.  ... Which is a
>>> question back to you, Bill:  What roads and speeds are you anticipating
>>> for
>>> this year's SunDay Challenge road rally?  If you're talking about 45 mph
>>> or
>>> less, I'd guess many could go 35 miles.  At 35 mph or less, I'd think a
>>> fair
>>> number could go 47 miles.  But if there are substantial portions of the
>>> course at 50 mph and above, that might be a problem for many of our
>>> lead-acid conversions to make those kind of range numbers.  I don't
>>> know;
>>> you guys with lead-acid conversions who would like to participate in
>>> this
>>> event again this year please chime in on this.
>>>
>>> Charles Whalen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bill Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "EVs for Sale DL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!
>>>
>>> HI
>>> I am glade the BBB went well, sorry, I was at another event that day.
>>>
>>> We are planning the next SunDay Challenge.  Question
>>>
>>> Is 35 miles to far for your cars to drive.?
>>> What about 47 miles.?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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>>>
>>> William Young                         Florida Solar Energy Center
>>> Senior Research Engineer              University of Central Florida
>>> Clean Cities Coordinator              Space Coast Clean Cities Coalition
>>> (321) 638 - 1443                      1679 Clearlake Road
>>> (321) 638 - 1010 fax                  Cocoa, Florida 32922
>>> www.fsec.ucf.edu                      (321) 638 - 1000
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>>> Charles Whalen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ditto and second that on what a great event it was and many thanks to
>>>> Shawn,
>>>> Matt, Lowell, Bob, their respective wives, and everyone who helped to
>>>> make
>>>> it such an excellent event!
>>>>
>>>> As long as we're on the subject of politics (from the previous post
>>>> below),
>>>> in addition to also seconding the point that I myself too had some good
>>>> discussions about Ron Paul at the event, I would also like to mention
>>>> that
>>>> we had a Congressional candidate at the event, Paul Renneisen, who
>>>> actually
>>>> formally announced his candidacy and kicked off his campaign at the
>>>> event.
>>>> Paul is an American Airlines captain who lives in Ft. Lauderdale, flies
>>>> out
>>>> of Miami Airport, and drives a Toyota RAV4-EV as his primary
>>>> transportation
>>>> and daily commuter.  Captain Renneisen has managed to get his RAV4-EV
>>>> designated as the official electric car of Miami International Airport
>>>> and
>>>> is working on getting us a charging station there.  He is running in
>>>> the
>>>> August 2008 Democratic primary race for Florida's 22nd Congressional
>>>> District, encompassing most of Broward and Palm Beach Counties, against
>>>> incumbent Democratic Congressman Ron Klein.  If elected, Paul would be
>>>> the
>>>> first ever US Congressman who drives an electric vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> I am not going to violate the long-respected apolitical/non-political
>>>> tradition of civil EV discussion nor offend anyone's intelligence or
>>>> sensibilities here by urging anyone to vote one way or another for any
>>>> particular candidate, but as Glenn did in his post below regarding Ron
>>>> Paul's presidential candidacy, I would just like to call your attention
>>>> to
>>>> EV driver Paul Renneisen's Congressional candidacy and, if you live in
>>>> either Broward or Palm Beach County, ask that you give him a look and
>>>> check
>>>> out his campaign website at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.renneisen2008.com/
>>>>
>>>> If you have any interest in discussing Paul Renneisen's candidacy or
>>>> political issues thereabouts, you can communicate with Paul directly
>>>> (privately, off-list please) at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Charles Whalen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Glenn Kellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:49 PM
>>>> Subject: [FLEAA] Great time at BBB!
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to say what a great time I had at the BBB, Thanks to Shawn,
>>>> his wife and everyone who made it possible and the great success it
>>>> was!
>>>> Thanks for the great effort!
>>>>
>>>> Hope to see you all at the club meeting in Feb.
>>>>
>>>> Besides talking about electric vehicles and clean energy at the meet I
>>>> had some good conversations with a lot of folks about Ron Paul. I won't
>>>> flood the list with political posts, but if you are interested in Dr.
>>>> Paul's position on energy please check out his energy policy statement
>>>> at:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/energy/>
>>>>
>>>> The primary is Tuesday, cast your vote!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Glenn Kellis
>>>>
>>>>
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