----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Galbraith
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
On 5/28/08, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Your pod concept probably should be carried another step and be used to
carry a motor generator to be used to extend the range for your all electric
vehicle when you take it beyond a "normal range" of say 100 miles between
charges. Such a BEV+ could be sold with optional batteries to extend the
"stock" to longer range before a charge or a motor generator would be
needed. The motor generator itself could well be a rental / optional item
to reduce the purchase cost of the basic BEV+ car.
Uhaul already makes a "pod" type of trailer called their "sport" trailer. It's
aerodynamic and light:
http://www.uhaul.com/trailers/ (on the right hand side of the page).
Also, I don't know if they are selling them yet or not after a specific amount
of miles are put on them, or even if you could buy them new outright from
Uhaul, but you could easily install a small engine (3-4cyl or less) with a
small amount of fuel, and run an electrical umbilical back to the PHEV.
-brandon
Jim Baber - Fresno CA - <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My interests are; P H E V vehicles, Solar Power, renewable energy, the
environment and C O P D issues.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:39 AM
To: 'eaa-phev'
Subject: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
Felix et al,
In addition to pushing PHEV's to encourage energy efficiency, I
wonder if we should push another incentive that might also have
a significant affect on the US fuel consumption. That is,
"Car-pods" for small cars.
Many people are unwilliing to go from an SUV down to an
economical small car because they occasionally need to carry
lots of junk. Either to the beach or to work. Therefore they
drive everyday and everywhere in a gas guzzling big car when
most of the time they don't need to carry all that empty space.
The solution would be a mandate on all new small economical cars
to have a built-in 1" trailer hitch receiver. Having every
small economical car pre-configured with a modest built-in
structural tow hitch capability would help encourage people to
use small cars most of the time, but still be able to "tow"
their junk when needed. We could maybe involve U-Haul to also
promote this national campaign to "leave the junk at home except
when you need it"...
In fact, the small car industry could even make aerodynamic
"pods" that attach to their car model that not only provide the
extra carrying capacity when needed, but do so with minimum
drag. Some small pods could even attach completely to the
receiver hitch and have no wheels and become part of the
aerodynamics which could actually improve the fuel efficiency in
some cases.
PHEV's promote fuel efficiency by using gas only when needed.
The car-pod idea would similarly promote fuel efficiency by only
carrying add-on trunk space when needed too. I can envision
split-apart vehicles that can optimize this concept. Leave the
pod at home for comuting, but attach it on weekends as needed.
This is a simple "thinking outside the "box" concept.
Detachable cargo space (pods) outside the box (small cars) might
be something we should be including in our designs.
Or look at it this way. These days, most SUV's come with
built-in big 2" trailer hitch receivers. Why not outfit tiny
commuter cars with tiny 1" receivers. Then SELL the concept of
leaving our junk at home except when needed.
Bob, WB4APR
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