Al, You are a very creative thinker! I have been wanting to find a way to get some more EVers to join our EVI journey. This could work. Our family will try to help if you get something rolling on this. Fran, Ron & Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Fw: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
> Folks, > > I hope this is not a duplication of what you already have seen. The "Lone > Ranger" developed by AC Propulsion is an excellent solution. > > http://evnut.com/rav_longranger.htm > > Here is the detailed sec and design. > http://www.acpropulsion.com/PDF%20files/Low_Emiss_Range_Ext.pdf > > It uses a Kawasaki 498 cc, 45 kw, 9800 rpm, two Cylinder, "motor cycle" > ICE > coupled to an AC-150 motor rated at 70 kW continuous. The motor is an AC > Propulsion AC-induction traction motor. The regen capability of the motor > is exploited in this application. > > It has an onboard 8 gallon fuel tank and will run an EV such as the RAV4 > continuously. > > I wonder if we, as a club could build or buy such a trailer so that we > could > get a RAV4, an E-Box or home conversion to Events aroud the State that are > beyond the normal range of these vehicles. Right now there are places > where > we have trouble gettting even a single EV on site for an event because of > range. > > Cheers, > Al Lococo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:40 PM > Subject: [FLEAA] Fw: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods >> >> >>> >>> Your pod concept probably should be carried another step and be used to >>> carry a motor generator to be used to extend the range for your all >>> electric >>> vehicle when you take it beyond a "normal range" of say 100 miles >>> between >>> charges. Such a BEV+ could be sold with optional batteries to extend >>> the >>> "stock" to longer range before a charge or a motor generator would be >>> needed. The motor generator itself could well be a rental / optional >>> item >>> to reduce the purchase cost of the basic BEV+ car. >>> >>> Jim Baber - Fresno CA - <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> My interests are; P H E V vehicles, Solar Power, renewable energy, the >>> environment and C O P D issues. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:39 AM >>> To: 'eaa-phev' >>> Subject: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods >>> >>> >>> >>> Felix et al, >>> >>> In addition to pushing PHEV's to encourage energy efficiency, I >>> wonder if we should push another incentive that might also have >>> a significant affect on the US fuel consumption. That is, >>> "Car-pods" for small cars. >>> >>> Many people are unwilliing to go from an SUV down to an >>> economical small car because they occasionally need to carry >>> lots of junk. Either to the beach or to work. Therefore they >>> drive everyday and everywhere in a gas guzzling big car when >>> most of the time they don't need to carry all that empty space. >>> >>> The solution would be a mandate on all new small economical cars >>> to have a built-in 1" trailer hitch receiver. Having every >>> small economical car pre-configured with a modest built-in >>> structural tow hitch capability would help encourage people to >>> use small cars most of the time, but still be able to "tow" >>> their junk when needed. We could maybe involve U-Haul to also >>> promote this national campaign to "leave the junk at home except >>> when you need it"... >>> >>> In fact, the small car industry could even make aerodynamic >>> "pods" that attach to their car model that not only provide the >>> extra carrying capacity when needed, but do so with minimum >>> drag. Some small pods could even attach completely to the >>> receiver hitch and have no wheels and become part of the >>> aerodynamics which could actually improve the fuel efficiency in >>> some cases. >>> >>> PHEV's promote fuel efficiency by using gas only when needed. >>> The car-pod idea would similarly promote fuel efficiency by only >>> carrying add-on trunk space when needed too. I can envision >>> split-apart vehicles that can optimize this concept. Leave the >>> pod at home for comuting, but attach it on weekends as needed. >>> >>> This is a simple "thinking outside the "box" concept. >>> Detachable cargo space (pods) outside the box (small cars) might >>> be something we should be including in our designs. >>> >>> Or look at it this way. These days, most SUV's come with >>> built-in big 2" trailer hitch receivers. Why not outfit tiny >>> commuter cars with tiny 1" receivers. Then SELL the concept of >>> leaving our junk at home except when needed. >>> >>> Bob, WB4APR >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org >>> The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of: unsubscribe eaa-phev >>> >>> The EAA-PHEV list is intended primarily for the discussion of >>> the technical aspects of PHEV conversions. Other lists that >>> relate to more generic or specific PHEV topics include: >>> * http://www.greencarcongress.com -An online publications about green >>> cars. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news -PHEV News from CalCars.org >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable >>> hybrids. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHEV and EDrive group. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hybridsplus -PHEV and Hybrids-Plus >>> group. >>> For even more generic discussion of stock hybrid vehicles see the links >>> to specific forums for each vehicle at >>> http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Hybrid >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org >>> The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of: unsubscribe eaa-phev >>> >>> The EAA-PHEV list is intended primarily for the discussion of >>> the technical aspects of PHEV conversions. Other lists that >>> relate to more generic or specific PHEV topics include: >>> * http://www.greencarcongress.com -An online publications about green >>> cars. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news -PHEV News from CalCars.org >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable >>> hybrids. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHEV and EDrive group. >>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hybridsplus -PHEV and Hybrids-Plus >>> group. >>> For even more generic discussion of stock hybrid vehicles see the links >>> to specific forums for each vehicle at >>> http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Hybrid >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Florida EAA mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.floridaeaa.org > _______________________________________________ Florida EAA mailing list [email protected] http://www.floridaeaa.org
