Folks,

I hope this is not a duplication of what you already have seen.  The "Lone 
Ranger" developed by AC Propulsion is an excellent solution.

http://evnut.com/rav_longranger.htm

Here is the detailed sec and design.
http://www.acpropulsion.com/PDF%20files/Low_Emiss_Range_Ext.pdf

It uses a Kawasaki 498 cc, 45 kw, 9800 rpm, two Cylinder, "motor cycle" ICE 
coupled to an AC-150 motor rated at 70 kW continuous.  The motor is an AC 
Propulsion AC-induction traction motor.  The regen capability of the motor 
is exploited in this application.

It has an onboard 8 gallon fuel tank and will run an EV such as the RAV4 
continuously.

I wonder if we, as a club could build or buy such a trailer so that we could 
get a RAV4, an E-Box or home conversion to Events aroud the State that are 
beyond the normal range of these vehicles.  Right now there are places where 
we have trouble gettting even a single EV on site for an event because of 
range.

Cheers,
Al Lococo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: [FLEAA] Fw: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
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>>
>> Your pod concept probably should be carried another step and be used to
>> carry a motor generator to be used to extend the range for your all
>> electric
>> vehicle when you take it beyond a "normal range" of say 100 miles between
>> charges.  Such a BEV+ could be sold with optional batteries to extend the
>> "stock" to longer range before a charge or a motor generator would be
>> needed.  The motor generator itself could well be a rental / optional 
>> item
>> to reduce the purchase cost of the basic BEV+ car.
>>
>> Jim Baber - Fresno CA - <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> My interests are; P H E V vehicles, Solar Power,  renewable energy, the
>> environment and C O P D issues.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:39 AM
>> To: 'eaa-phev'
>> Subject: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
>>
>>
>>
>> Felix et al,
>>
>> In addition to pushing PHEV's to encourage energy efficiency, I
>> wonder if we should push another incentive that might also have
>> a significant affect on the US fuel consumption.  That is,
>> "Car-pods" for small cars.
>>
>> Many people are unwilliing to go from an SUV down to an
>> economical small car because they occasionally need to carry
>> lots of junk.  Either to the beach or to work.  Therefore they
>> drive everyday and everywhere in a gas guzzling big car when
>> most of the time they don't need to carry all that empty space.
>>
>> The solution would be a mandate on all new small economical cars
>> to have a  built-in 1" trailer hitch receiver.  Having every
>> small economical car pre-configured with a modest built-in
>> structural tow hitch capability would help encourage people to
>> use small cars most of the time, but still be able to "tow"
>> their junk when needed.  We could maybe involve U-Haul to also
>> promote this national campaign to "leave the junk at home except
>> when you need it"...
>>
>> In fact, the small car industry could even make aerodynamic
>> "pods" that attach to their car model that not only provide the
>> extra carrying capacity when needed, but do so with minimum
>> drag.  Some small pods could even attach completely to the
>> receiver hitch and have no wheels and become part of the
>> aerodynamics which could actually improve the fuel efficiency in
>> some cases.
>>
>> PHEV's promote fuel efficiency by using gas only when needed.
>> The car-pod idea would similarly promote fuel efficiency by only
>> carrying add-on trunk space when needed too.   I can envision
>> split-apart vehicles that can optimize this concept.  Leave the
>> pod at home for comuting, but attach it on weekends as needed.
>>
>> This is a simple "thinking outside the "box" concept.
>> Detachable cargo space (pods) outside the box (small cars) might
>> be something we should be including in our designs.
>>
>> Or look at it this way.  These days, most SUV's come with
>> built-in big 2" trailer hitch receivers.  Why not outfit tiny
>> commuter cars with tiny 1" receivers.  Then SELL the concept of
>> leaving our junk at home except when needed.
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>
>>
>>
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>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable
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>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable
>> hybrids.
>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHEV and EDrive group.
>> * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hybridsplus -PHEV and Hybrids-Plus group.
>> For even more generic discussion of stock hybrid vehicles see the links
>> to specific forums for each vehicle at 
>> http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Hybrid
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