It is considered punishment

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From: Heather Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [LIT] detentions



WEll, still cleaning up is good community service. That's crazy they are not
llowed to do that!
On 9/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Not that type but to wash the mirror in bathroom lipstick was placed on or
 pick up paper .....ect


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Heather Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades. <
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 Sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 6:40 am
 Subject: Re: [LIT] detentions



 zlcarter wrote:

 n most school districts in WA we are not allowed to give students
 community
 ervice .....it might harm thier self esteem ....... hmmmmm"
 What?!? Oh my. Here in my district, Community Service is *required* to
 raduate from High School. How in the world can it harm self esteem
 anyway??

 n 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 In most school districts in WA we are not allowed to give students
 community service .....it might harm thier self esteem ....... hmmmmm


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 From: Heather Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Sent: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 6:44 am
 Subject: Re: [LIT] detentions



 I do like the community service idea!
 I don't find they always work, but I think you must have consequences and
 if
 etention is something that will deter a certain student, it should be
 used.
 have found cases that WANTED detention, so I usually could figure that out
 retty quick and would come up with something else. I do hate giving
 etention because it is a waste of my time. I have kept my class that is
 ight before lunch a few minutes into lunch if they couldn't get cleaned up
 uietly. Can't say that it really worked or didn't work.
 I will say that when I do give detention I usually talk to the student or
 ave them fill out a reflection sheet. Sometimes talking to the student can
 elp a lot. Other times, it's also a waste.
 I also hate to send students to the office because they sit there and talk
 o their other friends who are in trouble. In some counseling offices, they
 ven get to play games. So I usually keep them in class, sometimes sending
 hem right outside the door for a little while, until I can speak to them.
 alling their parents right there in class also works wonders on a lot of
 ids.
 On 9/26/07, Alice Cortigiano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I don't see it being valuable. It does nothing to change behavior and I
 see
 the same repeat behaviors occurring over and over from the same kids.
 Detention to me is a waste of time, students and teachers.

 I like Tena's idea...community service.

 alice

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:36 PM
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 Subject: [LIT] detentions

 Are detentions a worthwhile way of addressing behavior issues?

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 all; nations perish; civilizations grow old and die out;
 ew races build others. But in the world of books are
 olumes that have seen this happen again and again and yet
 ive on. Still young, still as fresh as the day they were
 ritten, still telling men's hearts of the hearts of men
 enturies dead." --Clarence Day
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 ood evidence exists that there's any educational substance
 ehind the accountability and testing movement."
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 Heather
 "The world of books is the most remarkable creation of
 an. Nothing else that he builds ever lasts. Monuments
 all; nations perish; civilizations grow old and die out;
 ew races build others. But in the world of books are
 olumes that have seen this happen again and again and yet
 ive on. Still young, still as fresh as the day they were
 ritten, still telling men's hearts of the hearts of men
 enturies dead." --Clarence Day
 "While the rhetoric is highly effective, remarkably little
 ood evidence exists that there's any educational substance
 ehind the accountability and testing movement."
 Peter Sacks, Standardized Minds
 "When our children fail competency tests the schools lose
 unding. When our missiles fail tests, we increase
 unding. "
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 Heather
"The world of books is the most remarkable creation of
an. Nothing else that he builds ever lasts. Monuments
all; nations perish; civilizations grow old and die out;
ew races build others. But in the world of books are
olumes that have seen this happen again and again and yet
ive on. Still young, still as fresh as the day they were
ritten, still telling men's hearts of the hearts of men
enturies dead." --Clarence Day
"While the rhetoric is highly effective, remarkably little
ood evidence exists that there's any educational substance
ehind the accountability and testing movement."
Peter Sacks, Standardized Minds
"When our children fail competency tests the schools lose
unding. When our missiles fail tests, we increase
unding. "
Dennis Kucinich, Democratic Presidential Candidate
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