I disliked the conversation journal as well. My students just did not enjoy 
using it. I'm trying to find other ways for them to communicate about their 
reading.

Does anyone spend time with whole-group readings or on reading comprehension 
strategy lessons that would take up a whole period? I'm currently taking a 
class on reading workshop and my professor recommends these kind of activities 
more than the silent pleasure reading. I'm not sure how I feel about that.  
Nancie Atwell would be annoyed, for sure...

   - Cristy

 "Je réponds ordinairement à ceux qui me demandent raison de mes voyages: que 
je sais bien ce que je fuis, mais non pas ce que je cherche."


- Montaigne, Essais



----- Original Message ----
From: Jaime Mendelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:47:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LIT] Questions about content

I've used reading workshop with both middle and high school level, and
found that time is the constant in both.  Currently in with 8th graders,
I made sure students knew when "reading days" were and once they became
familiar with the structure came in with their books, found their cozy
spot in the room, and read!  I found that I learned the most about my
students as readers from the conferences I had with them on reading
days.  I (ala Kelly Gallagher) required 20 hours of reading outside my
class each marking period, checked reading logs, had conversations one
on one, etc.  The biggest struggle I found was Atwell's conversation
journal.  I struggled for years trying to write back to 130 students
each week and finally burned out.  Last year I tried a suggestion from a
colleague:  have them write to someone at home.  I tried it, with
awesome results.  The kids were still having those conversations about
books and also made the connection at home --  two birds with one stone!
I checked every other week that they were sharing a letter to and
received one also.  I found I had to let go of the craziness of thinking
they had to analyze every single thing they read, and just let them have
time to read and talk about what they were thinking about!

BUT -- I am soooooooo curious to hear about the internship with
Atwell!!!  Maybe we should all share how we incorporate workshop?  Even
after 10 years of teaching I am changing things up every year and
looking for new ideas!!

Jaime


>>> Cristy Weggelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/14/08 10:50 PM >>>
For Maureen or any other workshop gurus out there:  How do you
facilitate a workshop if you work in a school where very specific texts
(novels, units) are mandated by the district? I have not yet had to work
in a situation like that, but I fully expect it to happen at some point.

Also, has anyone out there used the reading workshop approach at the
high school level? If so, how does a hs workshop look different from a
middle school workshop a la Atwell?
home
I recently picked up the new writing workshop book Write Beside Them by
Penny Kittle - anyone else read it?

I appreciate your advice!!

  - Cristy

"Je réponds ordinairement à ceux qui me demandent raison de mes
voyages: que je sais bien ce que je fuis, mais non pas ce que je
cherche."


- Montaigne, Essais


----- Original Message ----
From: Maureen Robins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades.
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LIT] Questions for Maureen/long

Well, it's a long story. About five years ago when the New York City
Board
of Education was reorganized, we were all mandated to do "balanced
literacy." Personally, this was excellent for me because I was a
district
wide staff developer (Teacher College trained, a writer as well) and
attempting (with great difficulty) to bring reading and writing workshop
in
to elementary and middle schools. While elementary schools were suited
up
with providers (Aussies and Teachers College) the middle schools were 
not
given much support but, if possible, were guided by Americas Choice. I
transfered from the district to become a building based literacy coach.
We
began to institute block scheduling and between 8 and 10 periods of ELA.
Reading workshop was separated from writing workshop and the hard work
began. At this point we are doing an amalgam of workshop ELA with a
hefty
dose of data analysis (running records three times a year and I'm about
to
launch a writing record of sorts using the 6 Traits rubric) and because
I'm
an acolyte of brain-based learning (Marzano, Garmston, Bocchino, Wolfe)
(and
an assistant principal) we've been examining how lessons are put
together
and how unit plans develop over time. We have our own pacing calendars
and
this year we are attempting to insert a grammar pacing calendar with in
the
units.

This also mea
ns that students are expected to read four books a unit.
Thisequivalents (number of short stories, articles etc) and there may be one
class text to launch a unit and the teacher transitions the class into
book
groups.  We have about 8 units a year. A summer assignment is required
and
this summer is is three books -- which can count toward their 25. The
books
don't have to be of a certain lenght but because we do running records
and
implement the Fountas and Pinnell levels we have an idea of what
students
ought to be reading to challenge themselves. This of course brings up
another issue because technically many of our seventh graders in the
spring
and certainly, many of our eighth graders in the fall are comfortably at
"Z"
(the level they need to be at if they are to "meet the standards" on the
state ELA test). We might be shifting to lexile levels so that I can get
a
measure readers beyond Z. So, a page number requirement is not part of
the
equation, really. There are books recommended with each unit. For
example,
the sixth grades does a "socail action" in fiction unit and texts are
matched to readers as best as possible. They also do author study
(reading
at least four books by any one author). All of these are New York State
standards based (four book on one theme, by any one author) and so a
list of
books tends to emerge.

I'm not sure if this was of interest to anyone or if it answered your
question Connie!

Maureen



On 7/14/08, Connie Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Marueen,
>
> Unlike NYS, Washington State doesn't have a minimum standard for
number of
> books read in a year.  Is reading handled as a separate class, and do
the
> books have to be a certain length? Also, is there a recommended book
list
> for each grade level?
>
> In response to your note below I might explain that this year was a
return
> to the workshop approach after trying out SpringBoard the year
> before--and the students only averaged only 8 books for the year,
compared
> to 20 this year, so it was a move in the right direction, but still
some
> work to do. Luckily our district has decided that SB is supplemental
> instead
> of core curriculum.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Connie Fletcher
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Maureen Robins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades." <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:07:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LIT] Summer Book Studies, Atwell
>
> >
> >
> > ...On the reading piece: I don't believe 20 books is enough. NYS
> stardards
> > require 25 books and the teachers in my building who manage to
cajole
> kids
> > to read 50 tend to be able to have students score on the meets or
exceeds
> > the standards.
> >
> > Maureen Robins
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