derek fong wrote:

Ole wrote:

I cannot confirm this. I installed widget update today and LS detected
its connection attempts correctly.

Ole

Am 30.10.2005 um 16:06 schrieb Saad Kadhi:

Hi there,

I downloaded Widget Update [1], a widget that checks if there are any
updates for the other widgets installed on the Dashboard. Widget
Update was able to access the Internet [2] and I am 100% sure I didn't
see any alert from LS regarding this access.

Hi,

It all depends on how the widgets communicate with the Internet and how
you've set up your rules.  Since Little Snitch works on the basis of
allowing or blocking network access to specific applications, it's
possible to inadvertently grant full access to more applications than
you bargained for by using the "Always allow connection" rule on a
"trusted" application.

For example, many applications (not just widgets) use a program called
cURL, which is an open source application that helps alleviate from
developers most of the heavy lifting associated with talking to web and
FTP servers, among others.  (cURL is included in the default Mac OS X
installation - open a Terminal window and type "man curl" or "curl --help".)

Now, let's say "Application A" uses cURL to perform an up-to-date
software check.  You trust "Application A" and are annoyed at always
having to confirm that you want to allow network access to it whenever
it performs a software update check, so you decide to always allow
outgoing web traffic.

However, along comes "Application B" which also uses cURL, but uses it
instead to phone home to its developers to let them know details of your
machine, IP address, passwords, etc..  Since you previously granted
"always allow" to cURL, you would never see Application B's connection
attempt.

Incidentally, this is not theoretical -- I have a number of shareware
and even commercial applications and system preference panels installed on my system that rely on cURL to talk to the Internet, and you probably
do, too.

Maybe this is obvious to the more tech-savvy among us, but I think it's
an important point to make if it hasn't already been made elsewhere.
What would be nice in a future version of Little Snitch is for it to be
able to differentiate between what applications call these "helper
applications" (such as cURL) so that granting an application full access to cURL won't necessarily give unfettered access to another application that uses cURL behind the scenes. In the meantime, remember that Little
Snitch is just another tool in your security arsenal and that it can't
prevent all mishaps from occurring..

Thanks,

-f

Thanks for clarifying that. I indeed had curl to allow all network traffic and wasn't aware of this potential issue. So thanks. Are there any other "usual subjects" like curl?

Ole
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