I have met plenty of Japanese that are charming and kind, and some that are 
neither, but the Japanese behaivior in victory that was seen during WW2 was by 
most accounts singularly horrid.  

American behaiviour in victory is usually the opposite.  I understand that the 
Americans in Iraq are treating enemy soldiers in their hospitals.   Those who 
have attacked us and subesuquently lost, in most cases, are now thriving. those 
who won are not.

The U.S. did indeed treat the Native Americans very badly in many cases.  But 
then, Native Americans treated each other very badly in many cases also.   It 
was a unstoppable land grab by a great flood of people from Europe wanting to 
thrive on the virgin land that did the most damage to native peoples, not just 
a simple case of evil invaders wiping out the Noble Natives.   

The detention camps created for Japanese-Americans during WW2 were wrong for 
several reasons, but they were not established or operated to harm the 
detainees; they were created to prevent the detainees from harming us.  One 
must keep in mind the fanatical mindset of many Japanese.  Recall that Japanese 
soldiers would rather commit suicide than surrender and that many of Japanese 
extraction considered themselves to be more Japanese than American.

 
Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Noel Russell 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 10/5/2008 1:03:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Lovely Japan


 Norm,


You have met me wife though  :D
And we will be going there on 10/31 to see the inlaws and start the marketing 
campaign. And before pointing fingers, look at the US and there History too. 
The Indians Reservations etc... is a good example. Or how about the detention 
camps for the Japanese during WW2?


N.Y. RUSSELL
Office Coffee Service 
"Java Powered Service"


-----Original Message-----
From: Norm of Bandersnatch 
Sent: Sun, 05 October 2008 12:37:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Liveaboard] Lovely Japan




I have visitied Japan and it is pretty in places, and without doubt there are 
many wonderful and loving people there as there are everywhere,  but for 
insight into the Japanese character in general ask anyone who experienced that 
character first hand in Korea, China, the Philippines, or anywhere else for 
that matter the Japanese were "visiting" in the late 1930 to mid 1940 period.

Someone once said that the true nature of a person (or culture) is how they 
treat people  when they have absolute power over them.

If this is so, then the Japanese have got to be near the bottom of the bell 
curve.

Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W



----- Original Message ----- 
From: bella 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 10/2/2008 8:49:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Living Overseas


Japan is a lovely place... my ex mom in law lives outside Kyoto. 
I am going to stay here.... for the nonce... my mom is 90...doing extremely 
well... she is the female warrn buffet... lol...
I am enjoying her company..sorta kinda.. after she goes, then who knows....

Was down in Annapolis today..it's gearing up for the boat show.. 


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Noel Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 'Bella,
We will probably be going to Japan. No Liveaboards allowed (need a "real addy). 
But a great place anyways. As for visa, marry one :P


Noel

N.Y. RUSSELL
Office Coffee Service 
"Java Powered Service" 



-----Original Message-----
From: 'bella 
Sent: Wed, 01 October 2008 09:12:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Living Overseas


high crime rate.....

here are two websites you can use to explore around

www.escapeartist.com
www.livingoverseas.com

moving to another country is not just...oh I think I will live X.... you can 
visit all you want... getting a residency visa
is more complicated... financial records, fingerprints, background 
checkis...more visas and more money..
my ex emigrated to Australia and now has a perm resident visa.. it cost him 
around $5k to get it done.

Belize has a retirment visa.. as does Costa Rica.. many of the central american 
countries do not allow a non citizen to own property..
do your research before you go down on a perm basis...Me, I am gonna go harass 
old people in florida and make more forays south... until they drag me kicking 
and screaming to the nursing home... of course my 90 yr old mom is a major 
factor in my decision..
she is doing great.  Still lives at home,does her own housework.. in great 
health.. I will probably die before she does.. lol
fair winds..



 
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:14 AM, David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Belize. Former British colony. English speaking. Easy access to the US.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of CT
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Living Overseas

Norm, and others,  I'd be interested in what "foreign countries" somewhat 
convenient to the US, those dissatisfied with the US would consider as friendly 
better alternatives?

First choice locally: Dominican Republic and a few other islands in the Carib; 
Mexico, Costa Rica, Guatemala.

Some swear by South America.  

Don't discount: Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar/Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam too.  
India's not too bad, Sri Lanka's nice.  Guam is real nice but there's 
competition for space.  That written, you can hang out in the Mariana's hitting 
Guam as/when necessary.  The health care in Asia is, in many respects, 
equivalent to the US.  Guam is a US territory.  The weather is far better in SE 
Asia than in SE US or Carib.  Running with the monsoon's you can hang out in 
the Pacific/South China Sea or the Andaman Sea/Indian Ocean.

I prefer Asia over the Caribbean.  

CT
30°24'43.07"N
88°34'1.90"W

.

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