I have moved onto the next phase and committed r229185, which makes VS2013 our 
minimum version. I will revert if issues arise, and we can rinse and repeat as 
necessary.

Once it sticks for a bit I’ll update the docs too.

-Chris

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Chris Bieneman <be...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Aaron, this should not be a blocker because the workaround is 
> simple. I'm also not opposed to raising the minimum CMake version all the way 
> to 3.0. CMake 3 is 6 months old and CMake 3.1 is already out.
> 
> I think most (if not all) our internal users are on 3.0 now, and those that 
> may not be are either on old branches of LLVM or have no excuse not to 
> update. I can start a separate thread with that proposal.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:44 AM, Aaron Ballman <aa...@aaronballman.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Greg Bedwell <gregbedw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We've just encountered an issue with ninja and VS2013 when using versions of
>>> CMake prior to 2.8.12.1.  This isn't a combination that we typically use so
>>> we've not run into it previously in our own builds.  It isn't specifically
>>> tied to upgrading the minimum version as it's a problem that already exists
>>> but I figure we'll hit it sooner or later on one of the bots as people start
>>> to use 2013 so best to deal with it sooner.  Essentially, when building any
>>> configuration through ninja with debug data enabled with anything more than
>>> -j1 we'll hit an error like:
>>> 
>>> C:\work\public_svn\llvm\lib\Support\APInt.cpp : fatal error C1041: cannot
>>> open program database
>>> 'c:\work\public_svn\build-vs2013-native-ninja\lib\llvmsupport.pdb'; if
>>> multiple CL.EXE write to the same .PDB file, please use /FS
>>> 
>>> Here's the relevant CMake tracker which shows the fix going into 2.8.12.1:
>>> http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=14492
>>> 
>>> I think our options are to either require CMake 2.8.12.1 for VS2013/ninja
>>> builds (but I don't know how feasible this is) or we can put our own
>>> workaround into our CMakelists to push the /FS switch when using Ninja and
>>> Visual Studio, unless someone has any better ideas?
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?  Is this a blocker for updating the minimum version?
>> 
>> I'm not certain I see it as a blocker since upgrading CMake should not
>> be too difficult (2.8.12.1 was released in Nov 2013). Whether we want
>> to require 2.8.12.1 is a different ball of wax, but for just the Ninja
>> + MSVC build, I don't think that's too onerous (then again, I don't
>> use Ninja for my builds, either).
>> 
>> ~Aaron
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