Ableton is designed to be live and I really think it hurts the song
editor. Everything done in one view has to be recorded or copied into the
other view. Tweaking a sequence only changes it for that particular place
and requires a bunch of copy/paste or rerecording to fix. Its a fantastic
DAW, but I make tracks much faster in LMMS.
The one advantage to this method is building and stacking sequences becomes
the new norm, which makes the creation process explode, but drawing out the
whole track is quite a mess in comparison to LMMS.
I agree with the perspective to keep LMMS on focus for a sequencer and to
allow the live functions to be on a wish list only, however, those "live"
functions that make it a better sequencer for composers and "live"
collaborators can be a game changer.
On Jan 25, 2014 10:33 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I see where you are coming from.
>
> I am thinking about this form a do more with less in terms of programs
> view.
>
> Would really love to hear Toby's input on this.
>
> On Saturday 25 January 2014 09:30:43 John Serafino wrote:
> > I'm not talking about preferred use. Just because some people use
> baseball
> > bats for killing people doesn't mean that merging the gun and the
> baseball
> > bat is a good idea. The individual objects have their specialized uses.
> I'm
> > talking about where the actual power of the workflow is concentrated. A
> > specialized workflow is better at its specialization than a general
> > workflow would be. Many consider FL Studio some of the best (if not the
> > best) for a composition workflow because of its focus in that area. LMMS
> > has a very similar focus and a very similar workflow, leading it to be
> > better than many commercial DAWs for composition. The only way to
> maintain
> > the power there is to have two modes or a tabbed interface or some such,
> > and again, why is that better than having two separate programs?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
> >
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > Everyone has their own uses. For you it might be better for
> composition.
> > > Others live mixing set, others a mix of the two.
> > >
> > > On Friday 24 January 2014 18:23:23 John Serafino wrote:
> > > > LMMS's composition is better... for me anyway.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
> > > >
> > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > > Ableton does it so well.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 25 Jan 2014 01:12, "John Serafino" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> Why? Trying to cram an elegant and usable interface for music
> > >
> > > composition
> > >
> > > > >> and mixing in with an equally elegant and usable interface for
> DJing
> > > > >> would
> > > > >> be madness. And how would it be better to have two modes in one
> > >
> > > program
> > >
> > > > >> than to have two programs? This is my LibreOffice isn't merged
> with
> > >
> > > GIMP,
> > >
> > > > >> and GIMP isn't merged with Blender.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Jonathan Aquilina <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>> It would be kool to merge the two together
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 25 Jan 2014 01:05, "John Serafino" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>> I switched to Mixxx for live stuff a couple of years ago. I
> think
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > > >>>> having Mixxx concentrate on being the best ever DJ tool and LMMS
> > > > >>>> concentrate on being the best ever production tool would be the
> > >
> > > best.
> > >
> > > > >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Tobiasz Karoń <
> [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Mixxx looks and works full-professional IMHO.
> > > > >>>>> On 24 Jan 2014 15:00, "Jonathan Aquilina" <
> [email protected]>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> I have experimented with it but not used it that extensively
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Gurjot Singh <
> > >
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > > >>>>>> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> On 24 January 2014 14:47, Jonathan Aquilina <
> > >
> > > [email protected]>
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> > When I dj i use virtual dj. There are lots of really cool
> > >
> > > ideas we
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>> can take
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> > from it for sure.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Have you tried Mixxx? http://www.mixxx.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>> Gurjot Singh
> > > > >>>>>>> Blog: http://bhattigurjot.wordpress.com
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina
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