On 11/19/2014 12:19 AM, Rob Kudla wrote:
> On 11/18/2014 02:23 PM, Vesa wrote:
>> Well, if you have old projects, you'll just have to finish them with 1.1
>> or 1.2 and render them to wavs. Then publish them, forget about it, and
>> make new music with 2.0.
> If this is the current development team's outlook, I really think LMMS 2.x
> needs to be called something other than LMMS

Again? Welp, time for another round of bikeshedding... :D

(my prediction: we'll all talk about it for the next 2 months and end up
with no one agreeing on the new name, thus keeping the current one)

>  (and the project file
> extensions should change too.)

This could be done. The "MultiMedia Project" doesn't really describe
LMMS projects very well, there's very little "multimedia" in LMMS... in
fact, I don't recall anyone talking about "multimedia" since the 90s. Is
"multimedia" even a thing anymore? Does anyone remember "multimedia"?


> At a minimum, it should import the tracks' note events as though they're
> coming from a standard MIDI file, perhaps with an idiot dialog that says
> "Here's the notes, but now you're on your own". Most people on this list,
> myself included, could write something that lazy in an afternoon.

So you're volunteering to do this then? Cool. Better do it as an import
plugin, similar to the MIDI/FLP/Hydrogen ones, that way we can keep any
legacy cruft confined to one area.

> The free software world, especially the multimedia side, is littered with
> the remains of projects that began to stagnate, only to have someone with a
> lot of energy show up

So you're saying it's better to let them stagnate?


>  with a bunch of commits and take a leadership role by
> default, say "This code is awful to work with, so let's toss out the cruft
> and redesign this from the ground up!", usually complete with a bunch of
> snazzy mockups, a website redesign and a thoroughly-documented architecture
> that decouples presentation from backend processing, only to have the
> latecomer lose steam (or depart in a puff of manufactured drama)

Uh...

>  when he
> realizes he's got hundreds of thousands of lines of code to rewrite from
> scratch, most of the features that sold the 1.x version never quite seem to
> make it to 2.x, the 1.x version gets removed from popular distributions
> because it's obsolete even though the entire ecosystem still revolves
> around it, and then the 2.x version gets removed too because it's so broken.

Wow. That's seriously a pretty horrible attitude to bring to the table
there.

Developers have feelings too, you know.




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