Hey Tag and other members of the Council and Loco contacts. See comments below. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Paul Tagliamonte <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey LoCo Contacts, > > At our last Council meeting[0] we had discussed having contacts sign > the LCoC, or Leadership Code of Conduct[1].
> * One who oversees material, or resources > If there is a member who holds all the materials ( posters, signs, CDs > ), they have a duty and obligation to the team to not just disappear. > Local Communities are ( more often then not ) run and funded > exclusively from the members, and a blow such as this would be a large > financial burden on the team. > [1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct > Feedback, as always, is welcome. "One who oversees material, or resources" this IMHO isn't a leadership position and shouldn't be held responsible. In ZA I am the loco contact, I in no way am in charge or the head hoohoo or what ever you wish to defined leadership by. I am simply the guy that subscribes to many lists and gets spamed with information and helps to push the rest of his community into being more active and keep them informed. When we opened up nominations we mentioned that a willing leader is someone that would have to follow the LCoC. We didn't expect people to sign any thing it was a simple matter of mutual agreement as to what needed to be done. If we require leadership to start signing stuff there goes the whole idea behind a community built on trust and freedom(not literally but at heart) While I agree it is great to have some nice means like the CoC and I kinda like the ceremonial process of signing the CoC(learning to use gpg and launchpad) I see no point in requesting loco leaders+tom+dick+harry to sign yet another document (the LCoC) as they start becoming more active in the loco. It reminds me of Dilbert and the giant big corporations and makes it yet another barrier to entry to Ubuntu. We already have enough issues with market share, gaming, proprietary drivers+hardware making it hard for new users to become active Ubuntu members we do not need bureaucracy helping it. I am pretty sure that gpg signed LCoC isn't legally binding and in all cases the loco-council supersedes loco contacts/leaders which in turn is superseded by community-council.... I hope to never seen it officially required to sign the LCoC even though I agree with every single line of it, I do not agree with the processes which we trying to enforce them as Paul mentioned where do you draw the line of leadership, next thing we know we are going to enforce signing the LCoC when you install Ubuntu onto a laptop because you are officially becoming a promoter of Ubuntu. "If there is a member who holds all the materials ( posters, signs, CDs)" what happens if I only hold 50% of the posts? David Rubin -- loco-contacts mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
