Gary, have you contacted the TAC? They may be able to pay your whole way--or at 
least part of it--especially if you intend to speak. If it makes the difference 
between you coming or not and I don't have anyone else to share the hotel room 
for, you can share it for free.

Nick

On Jan 28, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> I'd love to go as well but its not in my budget. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Christian Grobmeier 
> Date:01/28/2014 14:01 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Log4J Developers List 
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon CFP 
> 
> I would love to go, but i have to deal with a view personal issues 
> (which  are not meant to be discussed in public)
> That makes it impossible for me to travel.
> 
> However I was presenting Apache Logging at ACEU 2012 and it was an 
> amazing experience.
> I can only recommend it to everybody "new" at this project or not.
> The things you learn and the people you'll meet definitely make a 
> difference.
> In example I met a few ASF fellow of whom I thought I didn't like them. 
> I was so wrong!
> mails are useful for us, but in reality people are *so* different to 
> mails.
> 
> What I also enjoyed were the feedback after the talks(s).
> 
> Here are my old slides:
> http://www.slideshare.net/christiangrobmeier/world-of-logging
> 
> I also think Logging is an important topic and a focus on logging would 
> surely help us
> to promote log4j in the US.
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:59, Remko Popma wrote:
> 
> > I'm interested but not sure if I can go (we are expecting our second 
> > child
> > early May...)
> > -Remko
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nick Williams <
> > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's 
> >> right
> >> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue 
> >> getting
> >> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee 
> >> will do
> >> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at 
> >> t...@apache.org.
> >>
> >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to
> >> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from
> >> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even 
> >> have a
> >> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that 
> >> we're
> >> covering different topics and not stepping on each other.
> >>
> >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for
> >> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm 
> >> looking
> >> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and 
> >> split
> >> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel 
> >> rooms
> >> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and 
> >> checking
> >> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can 
> >> only
> >> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly.
> >>
> >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I 
> >> asked
> >> Rich.
> >>
> >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great
> >> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>> - What exactly is a project summit?
> >>
> >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of 
> >> one
> >> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the 
> >> direction of
> >> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is 
> >> whatever
> >> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together 
> >> in a
> >> room to make it happen.
> >>
> >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on 
> >>> the
> >> normal days?
> >>
> >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main
> >> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on 
> >> elements -
> >> more of a training class than an overview.
> >>
> >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but 
> >>> it's
> >> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on 
> >> any
> >> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire 
> >> conference,
> >> right?
> >>
> >> Rich: That's correct.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials 
> >>> on
> >> April 10th: "$399 for 1/2 day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 
> >> for full
> >> day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is:
> >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for
> >> /committers/?
> >>
> >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.
> >>
> >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone 
> >>> (it
> >> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 
> >> 11th as
> >> well)?
> >>
> >> Rich: We'll get that fixed.
> >>
> >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 
> >>> 11th?
> >>
> >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the
> >> project, and no extra fee is charged.
> >>
> >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that
> >> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which 
> >> means
> >> 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur.
> >>
> >> Rich: That is correct.
> >>
> >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on
> >> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of
> >> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier 
> >>>> <grobme...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014.
> >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging
> >> frameworks.
> >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Christian
> >>>>>
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