I'd love to go as well but its not in my budget. 

Gary

-------- Original message --------
From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> 
Date:01/28/2014  14:01  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> 
Subject: Re: ApacheCon CFP 

I would love to go, but i have to deal with a view personal issues 
(which  are not meant to be discussed in public)
That makes it impossible for me to travel.

However I was presenting Apache Logging at ACEU 2012 and it was an 
amazing experience.
I can only recommend it to everybody "new" at this project or not.
The things you learn and the people you'll meet definitely make a 
difference.
In example I met a few ASF fellow of whom I thought I didn't like them. 
I was so wrong!
mails are useful for us, but in reality people are *so* different to 
mails.

What I also enjoyed were the feedback after the talks(s).

Here are my old slides:
http://www.slideshare.net/christiangrobmeier/world-of-logging

I also think Logging is an important topic and a focus on logging would 
surely help us
to promote log4j in the US.



On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:59, Remko Popma wrote:

> I'm interested but not sure if I can go (we are expecting our second 
> child
> early May...)
> -Remko
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nick Williams <
> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>
>> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's 
>> right
>> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue 
>> getting
>> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee 
>> will do
>> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at 
>> t...@apache.org.
>>
>> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to
>> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from
>> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even 
>> have a
>> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that 
>> we're
>> covering different topics and not stepping on each other.
>>
>> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for
>> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm 
>> looking
>> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and 
>> split
>> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel 
>> rooms
>> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and 
>> checking
>> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can 
>> only
>> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly.
>>
>> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I 
>> asked
>> Rich.
>>
>> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great
>> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:
>>
>>> - What exactly is a project summit?
>>
>> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of 
>> one
>> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the 
>> direction of
>> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is 
>> whatever
>> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together 
>> in a
>> room to make it happen.
>>
>>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on 
>>> the
>> normal days?
>>
>> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main
>> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on 
>> elements -
>> more of a training class than an overview.
>>
>>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but 
>>> it's
>> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on 
>> any
>> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire 
>> conference,
>> right?
>>
>> Rich: That's correct.
>>
>>>
>>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials 
>>> on
>> April 10th: "$399 for 1/2 day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 
>> for full
>> day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is:
>>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for
>> /committers/?
>>
>> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.
>>
>>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone 
>>> (it
>> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 
>> 11th as
>> well)?
>>
>> Rich: We'll get that fixed.
>>
>>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 
>>> 11th?
>>
>> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the
>> project, and no extra fee is charged.
>>
>>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that
>> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which 
>> means
>> 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur.
>>
>> Rich: That is correct.
>>
>>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on
>> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of
>> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier 
>>>> <grobme...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014.
>>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging
>> frameworks.
>>>>> I will not be there unfortunately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
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