On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Nick Williams <
nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:

> Gary, have you contacted the TAC? They may be able to pay your whole
> way--or at least part of it--especially if you intend to speak. If it makes
> the difference between you coming or not and I don't have anyone else to
> share the hotel room for, you can share it for free.
>

I have not contacted the TAC. I'll have take another look at all that
tomorrow.

Gary


> Nick
>
> On Jan 28, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> > I'd love to go as well but its not in my budget.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Christian Grobmeier
> > Date:01/28/2014 14:01 (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Log4J Developers List
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon CFP
> >
> > I would love to go, but i have to deal with a view personal issues
> > (which  are not meant to be discussed in public)
> > That makes it impossible for me to travel.
> >
> > However I was presenting Apache Logging at ACEU 2012 and it was an
> > amazing experience.
> > I can only recommend it to everybody "new" at this project or not.
> > The things you learn and the people you'll meet definitely make a
> > difference.
> > In example I met a few ASF fellow of whom I thought I didn't like them.
> > I was so wrong!
> > mails are useful for us, but in reality people are *so* different to
> > mails.
> >
> > What I also enjoyed were the feedback after the talks(s).
> >
> > Here are my old slides:
> > http://www.slideshare.net/christiangrobmeier/world-of-logging
> >
> > I also think Logging is an important topic and a focus on logging would
> > surely help us
> > to promote log4j in the US.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:59, Remko Popma wrote:
> >
> > > I'm interested but not sure if I can go (we are expecting our second
> > > child
> > > early May...)
> > > -Remko
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nick Williams <
> > > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's
> > >> right
> > >> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue
> > >> getting
> > >> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee
> > >> will do
> > >> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at
> > >> t...@apache.org.
> > >>
> > >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to
> > >> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from
> > >> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even
> > >> have a
> > >> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that
> > >> we're
> > >> covering different topics and not stepping on each other.
> > >>
> > >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for
> > >> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm
> > >> looking
> > >> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and
> > >> split
> > >> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel
> > >> rooms
> > >> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and
> > >> checking
> > >> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can
> > >> only
> > >> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly.
> > >>
> > >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I
> > >> asked
> > >> Rich.
> > >>
> > >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great
> > >> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!
> > >>
> > >> Nick
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> - What exactly is a project summit?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of
> > >> one
> > >> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the
> > >> direction of
> > >> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is
> > >> whatever
> > >> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together
> > >> in a
> > >> room to make it happen.
> > >>
> > >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on
> > >>> the
> > >> normal days?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main
> > >> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on
> > >> elements -
> > >> more of a training class than an overview.
> > >>
> > >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but
> > >>> it's
> > >> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on
> > >> any
> > >> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire
> > >> conference,
> > >> right?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: That's correct.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials
> > >>> on
> > >> April 10th: "$399 for 1/2 day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749
> > >> for full
> > >> day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is:
> > >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for
> > >> /committers/?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.
> > >>
> > >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone
> > >>> (it
> > >> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April
> > >> 11th as
> > >> well)?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: We'll get that fixed.
> > >>
> > >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or
> > >>> 11th?
> > >>
> > >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the
> > >> project, and no extra fee is charged.
> > >>
> > >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that
> > >> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which
> > >> means
> > >> 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur.
> > >>
> > >> Rich: That is correct.
> > >>
> > >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on
> > >> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of
> > >> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?
> > >>>
> > >>> Nick
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ralph
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > >>>> <grobme...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014.
> > >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging
> > >> frameworks.
> > >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>> Christian
> > >>>>>
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