On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Nick Williams < nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> Gary, have you contacted the TAC? They may be able to pay your whole > way--or at least part of it--especially if you intend to speak. If it makes > the difference between you coming or not and I don't have anyone else to > share the hotel room for, you can share it for free. > I have not contacted the TAC. I'll have take another look at all that tomorrow. Gary > Nick > > On Jan 28, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > I'd love to go as well but its not in my budget. > > > > Gary > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Christian Grobmeier > > Date:01/28/2014 14:01 (GMT-05:00) > > To: Log4J Developers List > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon CFP > > > > I would love to go, but i have to deal with a view personal issues > > (which are not meant to be discussed in public) > > That makes it impossible for me to travel. > > > > However I was presenting Apache Logging at ACEU 2012 and it was an > > amazing experience. > > I can only recommend it to everybody "new" at this project or not. > > The things you learn and the people you'll meet definitely make a > > difference. > > In example I met a few ASF fellow of whom I thought I didn't like them. > > I was so wrong! > > mails are useful for us, but in reality people are *so* different to > > mails. > > > > What I also enjoyed were the feedback after the talks(s). > > > > Here are my old slides: > > http://www.slideshare.net/christiangrobmeier/world-of-logging > > > > I also think Logging is an important topic and a focus on logging would > > surely help us > > to promote log4j in the US. > > > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:59, Remko Popma wrote: > > > > > I'm interested but not sure if I can go (we are expecting our second > > > child > > > early May...) > > > -Remko > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nick Williams < > > > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > > > > > >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's > > >> right > > >> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue > > >> getting > > >> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee > > >> will do > > >> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at > > >> t...@apache.org. > > >> > > >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to > > >> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from > > >> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even > > >> have a > > >> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that > > >> we're > > >> covering different topics and not stepping on each other. > > >> > > >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for > > >> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm > > >> looking > > >> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and > > >> split > > >> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel > > >> rooms > > >> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and > > >> checking > > >> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can > > >> only > > >> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly. > > >> > > >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I > > >> asked > > >> Rich. > > >> > > >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great > > >> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA! > > >> > > >> Nick > > >> > > >> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote: > > >> > > >>> - What exactly is a project summit? > > >> > > >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of > > >> one > > >> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the > > >> direction of > > >> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is > > >> whatever > > >> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together > > >> in a > > >> room to make it happen. > > >> > > >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on > > >>> the > > >> normal days? > > >> > > >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main > > >> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on > > >> elements - > > >> more of a training class than an overview. > > >> > > >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but > > >>> it's > > >> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on > > >> any > > >> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire > > >> conference, > > >> right? > > >> > > >> Rich: That's correct. > > >> > > >>> > > >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials > > >>> on > > >> April 10th: "$399 for 1/2 day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 > > >> for full > > >> day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is: > > >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for > > >> /committers/? > > >> > > >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone. > > >> > > >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone > > >>> (it > > >> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April > > >> 11th as > > >> well)? > > >> > > >> Rich: We'll get that fixed. > > >> > > >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or > > >>> 11th? > > >> > > >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the > > >> project, and no extra fee is charged. > > >> > > >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that > > >> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which > > >> means > > >> 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur. > > >> > > >> Rich: That is correct. > > >> > > >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on > > >> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of > > >> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? > > >>> > > >>> Nick > > >>> > > >>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can. > > >>>> > > >>>> Ralph > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier > > >>>> <grobme...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi folks, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. > > >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging > > >> frameworks. > > >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards, > > >>>>> Christian > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --- > > >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de > > >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL > > >>>>> @grobmeier > > >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL > > @grobmeier > > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory