Could we set this property ourselves in the JUL bridge jar? So that just 
including this jar would set the system property? (Just thinking out loud...)

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> On 2014/08/23, at 3:44, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> That was my goal at least with the work I did a little while back. Though 
> simplifying the requirements to making the user specify the correct system 
> property to choose Log4j2 does make that a whole lot easier.
> 
> 
>> On 22 August 2014 18:17, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> With SLF4J, JCL, and Log4j1 compatibility, I think we're far better than 
>>> JCL. I think we need a proper java.util.logger bridge as well to be a 
>>> complete replacement, though.
>> 
>> I agree there, a bridge would round things out. For 2.1?
>> 
>> Gary
>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22 August 2014 18:08, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I do not think it matters from the Commons POV. I am the Commons PMC Chair 
>>>> FYI. Commons as a community can think and do what it wants with Commons 
>>>> Logging. What I am more concerned about is if, we, the Log4j Community can 
>>>> say with confidence "Log4j 2 is so good that we consider Commons Logging 
>>>> obsolete because A, B and C".
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Have you asked this on the commons mailing list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20 August 2014 09:46, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I'd certainly say so. Commons Logging doesn't have parameterized 
>>>>>> messages or markers; that's a pretty big feature at this point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 20 August 2014 08:42, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like to say that Log4j 2 deprecates Apache Commons Logging, but it 
>>>>>>> feels like a stretch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
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