How about 2.5.1-alpha1?

Gary

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:

> OK - but I don’t want to release all of Log4j - just the Scala part. I
> would also like to use a version number that doesn’t confuse people into
> thinking this is a new release of Log4j or is actually part of Log4j 2.5
> and probably not 2.5.1 either, since if it is released with 2.5.1 then
> having two 2.5.1’s, even if one has a classifier, is going to lead to
> confusion.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
> wrote:
>
> That branch is up-to-date with master, and builds properly.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK - I suppose it would be OK to release from the branch. I will try to
>> take a look at it this evening and make suggestions.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> In branch LOG4J-1181
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> First off, where is the code right now?
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, but I am not really sure about how to do a release.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought we/you were going to cut an alpha release?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> On Jan 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So where are we on this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds good then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can it still depend on log4-api version 2.5 then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with
>>>>>>>> Log4j’s versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let
>>>>>>>> people know it isn’t GA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different
>>>>>>>> modules. We just keep the same version across the project. Making it
>>>>>>>> 2.5-beta1 sounds fine to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily
>>>>>>>>> accessible (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview 
>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>> to be able to get some feedback before we commit to a final API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names
>>>>>>>>> as in the final, but include something in the version which marks it 
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> preview. Such as "2.5-beta1"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module,
>>>>>>>>>> but I have never tried that. Or the process could be done manually.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of
>>>>>>>>>> the next release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that 
>>>>>>>>>> we can
>>>>>>>>>> still make changes to the API depending on user feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the
>>>>>>>>>> scala module?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Remko
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release,
>>>>>>>>>> which I am not certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> release it separately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev
>>>>>>>>>> branch, so it should be okay to build this module by default. No 
>>>>>>>>>> need for
>>>>>>>>>> setting up a separate profile AFAIC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify
>>>>>>>>>> the classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I
>>>>>>>>>> recall. I think you have to specify the project as of type pom and 
>>>>>>>>>> then use
>>>>>>>>>> the maven helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a 
>>>>>>>>>> classifier.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile
>>>>>>>>>>> to the parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They 
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn’t
>>>>>>>>>>> have to build by default.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as
>>>>>>>>>>> "experimental, feedback requested".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead
>>>>>>>>>>> of 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In
>>>>>>>>>>> fact, that is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do 
>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>> thing with git.  If you have an account at github you could put the 
>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>> there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let
>>>>>>>>>>> them depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling
>>>>>>>>>>>> up to trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole suite?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we are ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to release some beta or preview version of this and get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name. However, we were advised that they should or else some of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain maven behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that too, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between major versions. There is a convention for encoding this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", "log4j-scala_2.11" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is make 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to tag on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version to the module to account for this, like 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala", with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com
>>> Grev Turegatan 3  | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden  |   www.magine.com
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>>
>>
>> --
>> [image: MagineTV]
>>
>> *Mikael Ståldal*
>> Senior software developer
>>
>> *Magine TV*
>> mikael.stal...@magine.com
>> Grev Turegatan 3  | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden  |   www.magine.com
>>
>> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be contained in this
>> message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message
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>> not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case,
>> you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply
>> email.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> [image: MagineTV]
>
> *Mikael Ståldal*
> Senior software developer
>
> *Magine TV*
> mikael.stal...@magine.com
> Grev Turegatan 3  | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden  |   www.magine.com
>
> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be contained in this
> message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message
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> copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case,
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