I thought we/you were going to cut an alpha release? Gary On Jan 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
> So where are we on this? > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com > > wrote: > >> Sounds good then. >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sure. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can it still depend on log4-api version 2.5 then? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with >>>> Log4j’s versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let >>>> people know it isn’t GA. >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules. >>>> We just keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1 >>>> sounds fine to me. >>>> >>>> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible >>>>> (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow to be >>>>> able >>>>> to get some feedback before we commit to a final API. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names as in >>>>> the final, but include something in the version which marks it as preview. >>>>> Such as "2.5-beta1" >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers < >>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module, but >>>>>> I have never tried that. Or the process could be done manually. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the >>>>>> next release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can >>>>>> still >>>>>> make changes to the API depending on user feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the >>>>>> scala module? >>>>>> >>>>>> Remko >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I >>>>>> am not certain is assured yet. I think that is why he wants to release >>>>>> it >>>>>> separately. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev >>>>>> branch, so it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for >>>>>> setting up a separate profile AFAIC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the >>>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. >>>>>> I >>>>>> think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the >>>>>> maven >>>>>> helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier. >>>>>> >>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers < >>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is true. In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to >>>>>>> the parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to build by default. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, >>>>>>> feedback requested". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of >>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff. In fact, >>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated. I am not sure how to do the same >>>>>>> thing >>>>>>> with git. If you have an account at github you could put the project >>>>>>> there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal < >>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let >>>>>>> them depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up >>>>>>>> to trying your hand at RM duties? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the >>>>>>>> whole suite? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal < >>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a >>>>>>>>>> single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if >>>>>>>>>> we are ready. I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just >>>>>>>>>> added. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Ralph >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the >>>>>>>>>> same time_ with the Scala modules. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" < >>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to >>>>>>>>>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some feedback >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> Scala developers before we make the API final. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers < >>>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. >>>>>>>>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the Maven >>>>>>>>>> plugins >>>>>>>>>> might have problems. I think the site plugin was one of them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or >>>>>>>>>> something like that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain >>>>>>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I >>>>>>>>>> thought. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal < >>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like >>>>>>>>>> that too, right? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal < >>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility >>>>>>>>>> between major versions. There is a convention for encoding this into >>>>>>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>>> artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", "log4j-scala_2.11" etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker < >>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory < >>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot >>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is make sense to >>>>>>>>>> tag on >>>>>>>>>> a version to the module to account for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal < >>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala", with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magine TV >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regeringsgatan 25 | 111 53 Stockholm, Sweden | >>>>>>>>>> www.magine.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be >>>>>>>>>> contained in this message. 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