OK - I suppose it would be OK to release from the branch. I will try to take a 
look at it this evening and make suggestions. 

Ralph

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
> 
> In branch LOG4J-1181
> 
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> First off, where is the code right now?
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but I am not really sure about how to do a release.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I thought we/you were going to cut an alpha release?
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>> So where are we on this?
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>> Sounds good then.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>> Sure.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can it still depend on log4-api version 2.5 then?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>> I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with Log4j’s 
>>> versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let people know 
>>> it isn’t GA.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules. We 
>>>> just keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1 sounds 
>>>> fine to me.
>>>> 
>>>> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible 
>>>> (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow to be 
>>>> able to get some feedback before we commit to a final API.
>>>> 
>>>> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names as in the 
>>>> final, but include something in the version which marks it as preview. 
>>>> Such as "2.5-beta1"
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module, but I 
>>>> have never tried that. Or the process could be done manually.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the 
>>>>> next release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can 
>>>>> still make changes to the API depending on user feedback. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the scala 
>>>>> module?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remko 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am 
>>>>>> not certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants to release it 
>>>>>> separately.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, 
>>>>>>> so it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for 
>>>>>>> setting up a separate profile AFAIC. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the 
>>>>>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I 
>>>>>>>> recall. I think you have to specify the project as of type pom and 
>>>>>>>> then use the maven helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a 
>>>>>>>> classifier.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the 
>>>>>>>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t 
>>>>>>>>> have to build by default.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, 
>>>>>>>>>> feedback requested". 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of 
>>>>>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In fact, 
>>>>>>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do the same 
>>>>>>>>>>> thing with git.  If you have an account at github you could put the 
>>>>>>>>>>> project there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from 
>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let 
>>>>>>>>>>>> them depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole suite?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > we are ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> same time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> feedback from Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maven plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> was one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> too, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> between major versions. There is a convention for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> encoding this into Maven artifact IDs, it will be: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.10", "log4j-scala_2.11" etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is make sense to tag on a version to the module to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala", with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired from
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer 
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