That is a very good point!

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Greg Thomas <greg.d.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Remember that many users haven't migrated from 1.2 yet.
> 
> This. IMHO it will become much harder to persuade people to make a jump to 
> 2.x if there a 3.x in the pipeline that will break BC - they'll just way for 
> 3.x
> 
> Greg
> 
>> On 16 September 2016 at 15:45, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I don't think we should start working on 3.0 any time soon, unless we have 
>> to in order to support Java 9.
>> 
>> And I think we should make a 2.7 release really soon, and then more 2.x 
>> releases after that.
>> 
>> Remember that many users haven't migrated from 1.2 yet.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Ah, yes, Java 9... it just seems that we need to more clearly define what 
>>> is public vs. not and an SPI package seems like nice neat way to do that. 
>>> That said, it's a lot of busy work and I am not 100% it is worth it. I am 
>>> waffling.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I am nowhere near wanting to do 3.0. But we may want to do it for Java 9 
>>>> depending on how disruptive that is.  That is one of the reasons I would 
>>>> like to get moving on Java 9 asap.  I have a feeling we may want to 
>>>> continue the 2.x releases while 3.x is going just for that reason.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should we start thinking about 3.0 where the main driver is to formalize 
>>>>> a Core SPI package?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doing this for 2.8 and break BC in Core would be too disruptive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doing this for 2.8 and have a Core class implement a SPI interface where 
>>>>> the SPI interface inherits the old interface would be weird.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, should we just keep on going as we have and keep Core BC a moving 
>>>>> target?
>>>>> 
>>>>> We could wait to do more 2.x releases and accumulate more deprecated code 
>>>>> (Builders vs factory methods for example).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
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