Eu tenho uma ideia que acho melhor apesar de ser mais radical. Acabar com todos os prêmios exceto, talvez, os de fim de carreira.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:55 PM Francisco Miraglia Neto <[email protected]> wrote: > Car@s, > > Concordo inteiramente com as considerações do Walter. > > Com votos de que todos estejam bem, > > Abraços e cuidem-se!! > > Chico Miraglia > > > On 24 Jul 2020, at 13:23, Walter Alexandre Carnielli < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Car@s colegas: > > > > embora ninguém desta lista tenha comentado minha mensagem ao Beth > > Prize, que reproduzo abaixo, Minha indignação se deu porque o > > trabalho do noso colega Alfredo Roque Freite, excelente e > > extraordinário em todos os sentido, não foi sequer "short-listed" ou > > reconhecido como 'nominated". Shay Logan (um dos organizadores do > > Supergroup) realmente compreendeu a situação e me autorizou a > > divulgar sua reação e sua intenção: > > > > "Yes, you're free to quote me! I'm going to run a few ideas by some > > folks about how we might go about recognizing excellent work in logic > > in a more fair way." > > > > =============== > > "Hi Walter, > > > > Thanks so much for looping me in on this. I had no idea the statistics > > were so bad! This is indeed embarrassing. > > > > What would you think about us using the supergroup trying to organize > > some way of recognizing excellent theses in logic from non-Euro and > > non-Anglo areas? I don't have a clear idea of the best way to go about > > such a thing right now. But if you think it's an idea worth pursuing, > > let me know and I'll put more thought into it---or listen to any > > thoughts on the matter that you might have! > > > > All the best, > > > > Shay" > > ============================= > > > > Venho aqui instar a(o)s colegas a se pronunciarem sobre esta questão > > importantíssima para os jovens-- e para os seniores-- da "desinclusão > > científica" que assola a todos nós. Vejam quem ganha os prêmios, > > jovens ou mais velhos, e quem é citado nas "esferas do mainstream" . > > Eu me importo-- quem se importar, por favor se posicione. > > > > Abraços desiludidos, > > > > Waller > > ============= > > CARTA ENVIADA > > > > Dear Mehrnoosh: > > c/c Board of the Association for Logic, Language and Information > > > > Thanks for your message informing me that the nomination of my > > ex-student Alfredo Roque Friere has not been chosen for the Beth > > Prize 2020. . > > > > I have to confess that I feel a bit disappointed with this decision. > > Of course we have to thank the board of referees, who work "pro > > bono" in favor of science, and undoubtedly do their best, and I > > also extend my full compliments to all the young scholars who have > > won this prize. I am absolutely sure they deserve it , > > > > However, I see with deep concerns that work from Africa, Latin > > America, Caribbean countries Iran, Arabic countries, India, Oceania > > Southeast Asia, and other non-central european and non-anglo-centred > > regions have never been selected for the Beth Prize. > > > > For sure, good science is not restricted to Center Europe and > > North-America--it's hard to believe that in 22 years the Association > > for Logic, Language and Information has not been able to select any > > PhD thesis outside Center Europe, US, and Canada. > > > > A sad evidence ot this is that the 32 winners since 1998, are > > distributed among Poland (3), Germany (5), France (3), US (8), UK > > (2), Italy (1), Canada (2), Netherlands (4), Czech Republic (1), > > Austria (1), Spain(1) and Russia (1). I'm afraid there is no > > evidence that this will be different in 2020. > > > > To have their work recognized is of vital importance for young > > researchers everywhere, but specially for people in Africa, Latin > > America, Caribbean countries Iran, Arabic countries, India, Oceania, > > Southeast Asia,etc, for all the political reasons we know. In > > particular, I ask you please to write a letter confirming that my > > ex-student Alfredo Roque Freire, candidate for the 2020 prize was > > considered, or short-listed, to the 2020 Beth Prize - this will be > > of higher relevance for his future career. > > > > I urge you to extend this letter to the 2020 committee and to the > > leaders of the Association for Logic, Language and Information, with > > my appeal to create a committee to take care of this point. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Walter Carnielli > > > > -- > > Você está recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo > "LOGICA-L" dos Grupos do Google. > > Para cancelar inscrição nesse grupo e parar de receber e-mails dele, > envie um e-mail para [email protected]. > > Para ver esta discussão na web, acesse > https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAOrCsLcTvxT91Mq%2BNXqVVdF6EQ_Yk4NLhDk5WnYa5j9GDYMhiw%40mail.gmail.com > . > > -- > Você está recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo "LOGICA-L" > dos Grupos do Google. > Para cancelar inscrição nesse grupo e parar de receber e-mails dele, envie > um e-mail para [email protected]. > Para ver esta discussão na web, acesse > https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/0FAAECCC-F80F-4041-AADA-6511025FD4DD%40ime.usp.br > . > -- ================================================================== Adolfo Neto Associate Professor - Federal University of Technology, Paraná Web: http://www.dainf.ct.utfpr.edu.br/~adolfo Mestrado em Computação Aplicada: http://www.ppgca.ct.utfpr.edu.br ================================================================== -- Você está recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos Grupos do Google. 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