On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 04:46:36AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Is it then logical if someone's corporate environment restricts their
> access to a particular version of an email client that doesn't send
> text/plain (or does something a bit perverse like base64 encode
> everything bypassing even majordomo's text searching; MS's software does
> this quite often) -- they will not (AFAIK) be able then to subscribe to
> a majordomo list. So in effect this argument has linked corporate policy
> or software choice to being part of a list. Huh?

Seems reasonable to me.  I don't care what the reasons are, it would be
damned rude for those people to post to the list in that broken format,
as not all recipients would be able to read it.  Therefore they should be
prevented from subscribing.  If the list is an important one that they
might want to subscribe to read-only, then they can either check the web
archives, or politely ask the list owner to subscribe them by hand.  I
subscribe people to lists by hand occasionally, it takes seconds to do.

> One possible point this sort of argument perhaps either misses or
> doesn't care about is that some people are simply frightened or
> irrationally confused by things like majordomo. It is not normal to send
> commands through email for millions of people -- this concept is quite
> technical & opaque to some. This again has nothing whatsoever to do with
> their ability to contribute to a list.

I don't care.  If they can't obey simple instructions, which you should
note come with explanations, then it is reasonable to assume that they
won't be able to obey simple instructions like "don't forward chain
letters to the list" and "don't advertise on the list".

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 12:35:17PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > If you are unable to send a message to
> > a specified address with a specified subject line, you are unlikely to
> Ironically, majordomo doesn't use the subject line at all and yet this
> appears in your argument. Perhaps this is a testament to this software's
> obscurity?

No, it is a testament to Roger's memory being less than perfect.  The
instructions given for subscribing to majordomo lists are explicit about
what the user needs to do, so no confusion can possibly arise.

> I to this day find it odd sending majordomo commands with arbitrary
> subject lines.

I often send the command in the subject and in the body.  It makes it
easier for me to find it when I am looking through my Sent Mail folder.

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