I am not saying that urdu is compulsory but the trend now is that Urdu has become cheap language..People who speak Urdu are illiterate
On 9/6/08, Asim Shehzad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I fully agree with you. Interestingly this group also communicate in > English. It must be remembered that languages are spoken on the basis of > their utility rather not on compulsion. If we stick to a language by > compulsion we will get no good. > > Secondly this group has a very limited readers and members and > fortunately educated. But a great lot in Pakistan is uneducated and they > will kept uneducated and thats the open secret of success of our leaders. > > > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:35 AM, naushad shafkat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> One can see your point and also agree with some. However I strongly >> disagree with point No. 8. Urdu has never been a part of the culture of the >> majority of people now living in Pakistan. And it has also nothing to do >> with Islam as many in our country would like to believe. We keep on chanting >> the Urdu mantra as if speaking it would make us better Pakistanis and even >> better Muslims. First we must ask ourselves some questions; Is Urdu >> developed enough as a language to be able to cater to the modern day world? >> For example could we have become a nuclear power if our scientists had only >> studied Urdu? Which scholar, in any field, has made an impact on the >> international scene by writing only in Urdu without his work being >> translated? The answers are obvious. >> Moreover what is the relation between Urdu and Islam? None at all I dare >> say. But we dub anyone who refuses to speak it as a non-Muslim. I remember >> being told of an incident by my late and lamented teacher Professor Kemal >> Faruki, who was an Islamic scholar well versed in Arabic and has written >> several books on Islam. It so happened that Professor Kemal Faruki had most >> of his education in Beirut and then in the United States. Since all his >> children were born and initially educated abroad they, like their father, >> did not know Urdu although they all spoke fluent Arabic and English. When >> Professor Kemal Faruki returned to Pakistan one of his sons was studying at >> the St. Patricks College, Karachi. One day Professor Faruki got a phone call >> from the college to rush there because his son had suffered some injuries as >> he had been beaten up by some boys. When he reached there and asked his son >> the reason for his being beaten up he was told that some boys had insisted >> that he should stop calling himself a Muslim as he did not speak Urdu and >> his refusal had led to the scuffle!!!! >> Yes Urdu is a beautiful language and poets like Ghalib and Faiz have >> written poetry comparable with the best anywhere. Yes we must respect Urdu >> like we must respect all languages. But to consider it a part of our culture >> or to tie it up with Islam is not on. And can you please point out just a >> single word of pure Urdu in our national anthem? Do more than 90% or even >> more understand the national anthem? >> >> Regards >> >> >> Naushad Shafkat >> >> P.S. The Quaid was always impeccably dressed according to the occassion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Shamsa Baloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> With regards to the last edition my comments and views are as follows >>> >>> >>> >>> *How can we expect our culture to grow when we have such problems >>> existing in our society:* >>> >>> >>> >>> *First, we do not trust ourselves >>> >>> >>> >>> *Second, we do not promote homemade stuff 'coz we're very much influenced >>> by foreign >>> >>> >>> >>> *Thirdly, do we all know our National Anthem correctly and complete? I >>> doubt >>> >>> >>> >>> *Fourth, did we study Pakistan's history whole-heartedly? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Fifth, on questioning not only the youth of Pakistan but few adults also >>> failed to answer the question "Significance of 23rd March and in which >>> year was it? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Sixth, we want all our works to be done by the government, we don't like >>> to take pain 'coz we enjoy gain. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Seventh, we do not want people to know that we are Pakistanis when we >>> are in foreign countries (I was an example of this statement but now >>> Alhamdulilah I take pride in being a Pakistani) >>> >>> >>> >>> *Eighth, do we respect Urdu, I think now we have mixed Hindi in it 'coz >>> we love Indian dramas and Bollywood. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Ninth, we love Pakistan only on 14th of August >>> >>> >>> >>> *Tenth, do we realize the sacrifices of our past? I think no because if >>> we did then our country could have been better until this day. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Did we know Mr. Mohammad Ali Jinnah by his clothes and hairstyle? >>> >>> Did we know Mr. Allama Iqbal by his clothes and hairstyle? >>> >>> These two prominent figures made a mark in the history not by clothing >>> well and introducing new hairstyles but it was their hard work which brought >>> them to fame. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then why do we blame the celebrities about their way of clothing…If we >>> blame them, then first we should turn the pointing finger's direction >>> towards ourselves because if they are stylizing themselves with western >>> styles, then we are also copying it… what will you say to this!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> If we love & respect our Culture then it is obvious that others will like >>> it too… >>> >>> >>> >>> *What ever points I have stressed does not refer to all Pakistanis >>> >>> >>> >>> With regards, >>> >>> Shamsa Baloch >>> >>> Po Box: 1853 >>> >>> Alain,U.A.E >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Naushad Shafkat >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Loose Ends Pakistan" group. 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