On 10/04/2015 22:23, Alexandru Juncu wrote:
> On 10 April 2015 at 22:01, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/04/2015 21:53, Bruno Ferreira wrote:
>>> Please, just dont.
>>> I use vi everyday.Also is present on every Unix.
>>
>> No-one is talking about removing vi from distros.
>>
>> The question is should vi be *on the exam* which is something else
>> entirely.
>>
> 
> Yes, and the exam is based on things that are used/available on
> mainstream distributions.
> So, since vim is, by popular demand, (probably) universally available,
> it's worth keeping.
> 
> Also, I bet that there are a lot of people of there that would say
> "you can pry vim from my cold hands" :))


Yes, I am one of them.

I also don't expect anyone else to know, or even care about, vi and/or
vim. It's a bizarre holdover from the 70's when 80x25 screens were still
awesome. Don't let your attachment to vi cloud your judgement as to
whether it is exam-worthy or not.

Look, just because a piece of software has been around since the dawn of
time and is generally useful does not mean that driving it is required
knowledge. Yes, vi is everywhere, and so is nano/joe/pico etc. The last
Unix I touched that had vi and only vi as an editor was IIRC a absolute
minimalist FreeBSD-5 and that was 7 or more years ago.

Times change, distros move on, new admins discard old tools. We should
all learn to deal with it and realize that vi is no longer king of that
mountain.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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