On 10 April 2015 at 22:40, Andrzej Szczygielski <[email protected]> wrote:
> Old tools ?
> Yes they are old but nothing compares to them not even close !

I'll second that. The fact that it has been around for a long time, it
doesn't make it 'old'. Vim still one being actively developed:
https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/list

There is also a fork that made some waves recently
(https://github.com/neovim/neovim)

The idea is that vim is not going anywhere.

>
> On 10 Apr 2015 21:36, "Alan McKinnon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/04/2015 22:23, Alexandru Juncu wrote:
>> > On 10 April 2015 at 22:01, Alan McKinnon <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 10/04/2015 21:53, Bruno Ferreira wrote:
>> >>> Please, just dont.
>> >>> I use vi everyday.Also is present on every Unix.
>> >>
>> >> No-one is talking about removing vi from distros.
>> >>
>> >> The question is should vi be *on the exam* which is something else
>> >> entirely.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes, and the exam is based on things that are used/available on
>> > mainstream distributions.
>> > So, since vim is, by popular demand, (probably) universally available,
>> > it's worth keeping.
>> >
>> > Also, I bet that there are a lot of people of there that would say
>> > "you can pry vim from my cold hands" :))
>>
>>
>> Yes, I am one of them.
>>
>> I also don't expect anyone else to know, or even care about, vi and/or
>> vim. It's a bizarre holdover from the 70's when 80x25 screens were still
>> awesome. Don't let your attachment to vi cloud your judgement as to
>> whether it is exam-worthy or not.
>>
>> Look, just because a piece of software has been around since the dawn of
>> time and is generally useful does not mean that driving it is required
>> knowledge. Yes, vi is everywhere, and so is nano/joe/pico etc. The last
>> Unix I touched that had vi and only vi as an editor was IIRC a absolute
>> minimalist FreeBSD-5 and that was 7 or more years ago.
>>
>> Times change, distros move on, new admins discard old tools. We should
>> all learn to deal with it and realize that vi is no longer king of that
>> mountain.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan McKinnon
>> [email protected]
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