On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 11:15 Anselm Lingnau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bryan Smith wrote:
>
> > After all, countless
> > hosting providers have been around for decades, and with full PaaS
> > solutions like CloudFoundry, OpenShift (which was born out of JBoss
> > developer needs in the late '00s -- yes, originally before Docker and
> > Kubernetes), et al. a lot of developers really don't need to be deep
> > Linux sysadmins unless they are maintaining the PaaS itself.
>
> Sure, but will those readily support NodeJS? I suppose if we were to rely
> on
> what commercial hosting providers tend to offer, we would have to go with
> PHP
> and MySQL.
>

Well, this is where I throw my arms up.
Ergo...

>
> Presumably in the context of an instructor-led course, the instructor
> would
> set up their web servers for them. Even for self-taught learning there
> could
> be pre-made Docker or virtual-machine images available for download where
> all
> they need to do is to deposit their own code in some designated directory
> so
> the server will pick it up.
>

Tell me... what is PaaS?

You know Red Hat has this entire, huge division of really techie guys,
consultants, trainers, etc... who _never_ build infrastructure, don't even
know its there, and somehow deploy NodeJS so they can train other
developers.

And Red Hat's not the only one, just the biggest, 100% Open Source, GPL
first, company.

BTW, this is how cake it was just a half decade ago... with really old
OpenShift Enterprise.
 - https://youtu.be/LGj3UnYhUzw

If you Google 'OpenShift NodeJS Deploy' you'll see even more modern PaaS
implementations, already available from service providers, in various
overviews and training.

And OpenShift is just one platform option.

It started in the late '00s as a solution for JBoss developers who didn't
want to deal with any infrastructure, which means its out there at PaaS
service providers and in canned solutions.

It has spiraled from there. So many things to deploy out-of-the-box with
just vanilla OpenShift, let alone just from the Red Hat CDN, let alone from
partners also from its PaaS solutions providers.

Forget Linux infrastructure is even there, and that you even need to touch
it.

This isn't Linux essentials.

- bjs
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