I don't know how it would be done but I think there's some value in creating the expectation that the devops *by itself* doesn't really mean that much. Where you see the playoff is if someone has *both* devops and LPIC-1 or -2. They can still be an idiot but the idea is that they aren't just someone who learned a bit of ansible but has no idea how to leverage it and they aren't someone who might be competent managing a handful of systems with console access but will be utterly incapable of scaling that work to hundreds or thousands of servers.
Bear BTW I'm LPIC-2 (by the skin of my teeth) but a developer who's been very much 'devops' for the last year. It's been frustrating since the ops team knows I know what I'm doing - they're actually waiting for *me* to show them how to do things like write ansible scripts! - but they repeatedly lose track of the fact that I'm representing a group of developers who need to be able to create a staggering number of server configurations to match the bug reports coming from the customers and a lot of the things that are best practices in production are the opposite of what we need. E.g., for them being able to quickly roll over stateless instances is great... but developers and testers need stateful systems as we investigate problems and it's a huge waste of time if we have to rebuild the test data daily. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:20 PM Sergio Belkin <[email protected]> wrote: > El lun., 27 abr. 2020 a las 8:21, Stephan Wenderlich (< > [email protected]>) escribió: > >> >> On 27.04.20 11:42, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> > Apologies for banging the same drum again, but: >> > >> > Op zo 26 apr. 2020 om 21:37 schreef Bryan Smith <[email protected]>: >> > >> >> In addition to the LPI Levels ... >> >> - 300 Architect >> >> - 200 Senior Administrator (2x exams) >> >> - 100 [Junior] Administrator (2x exams) >> >> - 000 'Hello World' Essentials <=== We are here ;) >> >> >> >> There is this reality ... >> >> - 100-200 exams: (x2 exams) 60 (so 120 total) questions in 90 (180 >> total) minutes >> >> - 000 exams: 40 questions in 60 minutes <=== We are here ;) >> > What about the -700 exams (DevOps and BSD)? How do they fare? >> > Entry-level? Essentials? Sysad? Architect? Or am I comparing apples >> > and oranges? >> DevOps Exam is surface scratching for the most people in my humble >> opinion. Someone needs years of experience with Linux and Networks >> before he can work professionally with DevOps topics. >> Some developers believe they can do copy&paste of some configs they >> found at the internet...but this is just unprofessional. >> >> Either you understand servers in and out (Lpic-2 and more) or simply >> don't touch the system. >> > > Simply I'd want to express my agreement, my big "+1" to this. DevOps is > the new techno-fetish. > > > >> >> >> > >> > For example, the BSD Specialist scope is ginormous, if one wants to >> > take it seriously. >> > >> > I'm just curious; sorry for the interjection. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > -- > -- > Sergio Belkin > LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
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