Well, this is kind of what I was alluding to in respect to the L3 security
cert.  I think there are some inherent problems, though:

1)  The non-technical is far more difficult to quantify (and test)
2)  There are training and cert programs for these areas already
3)  There may be a lack of consistency for what constitutes good "soft
skills" between the various world-wide cultures that embrace LPI.

It seems to me, that in order for this to be successful, we'd have to find
an area that is not well covered by other certification programs.

For example, I'm an LPIC-1 because I love linux.  To certify as an
auditor, I did ISACA's CISA.  To certify in information security, I did
the CISSP.  These are things that are probably better not done by LPI, as
they are just redundant.  Thus, what area, or what specific topics can't
be found in other programs that pertain directly to the Linux OS?

A few things come to mind, based on previous work

1)  Planning for a system integration project (good curriculum on this
comes from ISACA)

2)  Using the SDLC for application development (more of a programmer
function)

3)  Understanding Capability and Maturity Models as it pertains to
managing a Linux enterprise

4)  Disaster recovery and planning (though I think I'll put some JTA tasks
in about disaster recovery now that I am thinking of it)

5)  General project management skills (As per the PMP cert?)

Thoughts?

> Somewhat like a 'business consultant' L3 flavour? I like the idea,
> Mark. Well, since we seem to broaden the discussion, I want to
> bring in a related topic: non-technical skillsets.
>
> As I recall an LPIC-3 alumnis originally was supposed to be able to
> advice management too. Well, with the possible exception of very small
> businesses, this strongly suggests that such an alumnis should also
> have non-technical skills. Perhaps we need to create a program that
> certifies more than just technical skills.
>
> I have been working on such a program within my company. Our consultants
> are also encouraged to develop and maintain knowledge about business
> processes, project management and documentation and presentation
> techniques. They have to certify these skills too, for example all of
> our LPIC certified consultants are also ITIL Foundation certified.
> Additionally, I have been using instruments like the EQ-i to enable
> people to learn more about their psychological profiles, their weaknesses
> and strengths.
>
> However, it may be well beyond the scope of what the LPI should do, after
> all, the aforementioned skills are not 'linux specific'.  They are
> specific for all good business consultants.
>
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