On 21 June 2013 14:29, Anselm Lingnau
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Alexandru Juncu wrote:
>
>> But I think this is an important topic for a modern Linux System
>> Administrator and I think it should be a topic in LPIC-2. I know that
>> LPIC-3 has topics about this (the LPIC-304 being the specialization
>> for this).
>
> There are three issues worth commenting on here:
>
>   – Running VirtualBox to make yourself some spare computers when you're
>     studying for LPIC exams isn't exactly rocket science. Doing
>     professional-grade server virtualisation based on something like KVM
>     is another story, but that's what the LPI-304 exam is for.


Well, the ls command isn't rocket science either, but it is presented in LPIC-1.
Also, I think there are two sides: you could know basic things, like
what is the difference between operating system level virtualization
,paravirtualization and full virtualization and how to create machines
and use them (basic command). This would be something for LPIC-2 (some
could go as far as to say it's for LPIC-1, buy LPIC-1 perhaps should
be the really generic things you need to know about Linux
distributions); on the other side, there are more advanced things like
how to scale virtualization solutions for large(r) datacenters (this
would couver things like provisioning, redundancy, live migrations,
clustering and should be covered in an expert level exman like one in
LPIC-3).

That is how I see it.

>
>   – This revision of LPIC-2 is essentially finished. Any fundamental
>     changes such as these will have to be discussed with a view to
>     including them in the future, which according to the regular LPI
>     review schedule means »five years from now«. (How much the »regular
>     LPI review schedule« is worth in practice, given the fact that we are
>     about to make various gratuitous and unscheduled changes to
>     LPIC-2 very shortly after the last such review, essentially just
>     because we feel like it, is another question entirely.)
>

I saw the email a week ago about request for comments on the current
revision and I thought it would a larger comment window. Oh
well..Hopefully I'll still be here in 5 years.

>   – There was some movement afoot regarding opening the LPI-304 exam
>     to people who hadn't taken all the other exams before. I don't know
>     whether that is now off the table given that you no longer need to
>     become an LPI-certified LDAP guru (among other things) before being
>     allowed to become an LPI-certified virtualisation guru when all you
>     wanted in the first place is to become an LPI-certified junior
>     virtualisation technician, but there you go. It would be good to
>     have the official word as to what became of the idea.

The 3 level pyramid is very good. But maybe LPI needs to take a lesson
from other certification vendors and initial tracks from the second
level. Just a thought...

>
>> I know that LPIC-2 already has a lot of topics pushed into it and that
>> it's already crowded. But I just wanted to raise the issue for debate
>> to see if there are others that think that including it in LPIC-2
>> would be a benefit for students and future Linux system
>> administrators.
>
> What would you take out instead in order to make room?

This is too dangerous to answer. Each topic is there for a reason and
some people would be offended if I would say we should remove their
favorite topic.

>
> Anselm

Thank you.

>
> Disclaimer: This is my own personal opinion, not that of my employer. I'm
>   not getting paid enough to have opinions on my employer's behalf.

:)
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