Thanks Kenneth, could't have said it better. I only want to give one +
to this.

Regards - Harald


Am 15.10.2017 um 11:51 schrieb Kenneth Peiruza:
> Don't even dare to drop vi.
>
> The only reason someone would do so is due to pure ignorance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> On Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>, Oct 15, 2017 10:46 AM wrote:
>
>     On 14/10/2017 22:35, Marco Verleun wrote:
>     > In my opinion vi should go as well.
>     > There are many other and easier editors that are good enough to
>     perform
>     > simple editing operations.
>
>     We've had this general discussion before and the last time it was also
>     about vi :-)
>
>     LPI certification is not only about the latest greatest distro
>     releases.
>     The greater bulk of a sysadmin's job (measured across the boards
>     at all
>     manner of companies and place) is maintaining things that are not
>     recent
>     RHEL, Ubuntu and derivatives, but much older machines. And on
>     those, vi
>     is the norm (just as nano is becoming the norm on newer machines).
>     There
>     is to me little point in examining nano at all, it works like
>     notepad...
>
>     I don't believe vi is on the exam because LPI believes vi is a
>     fantastic
>     tool. I believe it is on the exam because vi is in the wild, often the
>     only installed option, and sysadmins have to know how to deal with it.
>
>
>
>     >
>     > Met vriendelijke groeten,
>     >
>     > Marco Verleun
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     >
>     >> Op 14 okt. 2017, om 21:39 heeft Bryan Smith <b.j.sm...@ieee.org
>     <mailto:b.j.sm...@ieee.org>
>     >> <mailto:b.j.sm...@ieee.org <mailto:b.j.sm...@ieee.org>>> het
>     volgende geschreven:
>     >>
>     >> This is an outstanding list.
>     >>
>     >> - bjs
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen
>     >> <traxpla...@gmail.com <mailto:traxpla...@gmail.com>
>     <mailto:traxpla...@gmail.com <mailto:traxpla...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>> On 10 October 2017 at 22:10, Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org
>     <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>
>     >>> <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> We might want to start commenting on exam 101 here.
>     >>>
>     >>> OK. Here is my list of suggestions for updating 101:
>     >>>
>     >>> 103.2 "Process text streams using filters":
>     >>>            Drop fmt. Too many utilities in this topic and very
>     few uses
>     >>> fmt.
>     >>> 103.3 Perform basic file management"; Add unxz, bunzip2
>     because gunzip is
>     >>> already there.
>     >>>          Add  bzcat, xzcat, zcat.
>     >>> 103.4 "Use streams, pipes and redirects": Add GNU parellel
>     >>> 103.5 "Create, monitor and kill processes" Add tmux. I also
>     tell my
>     >>> students
>     >>> that tmux is much                 better than screen
>     >>> 104.1 "Create partitions and filesystems": Remove awareness of
>     ReiserFS.
>     >>> 104.4 "Manage disk quotas": Drop this section.
>     >>> 105.3 "SQL data management". Rename to "SQL system administration"
>     >>> and focus
>     >>> on
>     >>>            how to create sql-users, change/set password and
>     grants for
>     >>> sql-users in postgres and                 mysql/mariadb. Maybe
>     consider
>     >>> sqlite.
>     >>> 107.2 "Automate system administration tasks by scheduling
>     jobs": Add
>     >>> systemd-timers. On                     newer installation
>     crontab and
>     >>> at-jobs tools are not installed by default and
>     >>>           systemd- timers are the way to do things now.
>     >>> 108.1 "Maintain system time": Add timedatectl
>     >>> 110.2 "Setup host security": Drop all about inetd.conf and
>     >>> /etc/inetd.conf
>     >>> but keep xinetd.conf
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards
>     >>> Martin M. S. Pedersen
>     >>> LPIC-instructor at SuperUsers Denmark
>     >>>
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>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Bryan J Smith  -  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
>     >> E-mail:  b.j.smith at ieee.org <http://ieee.org>
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