Vi is the only editor present in all servers.

Most times, first level operators have no right to install software on production servers.

LPIC1 is focused on the skills required for a junior sysadmin, thus it makes sense to teach the only editor they will surely be able to use.

IMHO vim topic should cover a bit more stuff to make it spark among not-so-automated editors like nano.

regards,

Kenneth



On Marco Verleun <ma...@marcoach.nl>, Oct 15, 2017 2:24 PM wrote:

The fact that there is no consensus on vi by itself is a reason to exclude it from the exam.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 15 okt. 2017 om 13:36 heeft Anselm Lingnau <ans...@tuxcademy.org> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Harald Maaßen wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kenneth, could't have said it better. I only want to give one +
>> to this.
>
> If it was up to me I'd have kicked vi out of the LPIC-1 exam five years ago –
> not because I think it isn't worth knowing about, but because one can learn
> everything anyone could ever conceivably need to know about vi (and then some)
> in a 20-minute session with “vimtutor” and it is stupid to ask questions on
> that stuff; we don't ask people questions about the keyboard and mouse,
> either.
>
> It's probably a good idea for budding Linux sysadmins to futz around with vi
> for a while, much like engineering students are required to futz around with
> hand tools for a while even if in real life they use CNC machines (and it's
> nice to be able to make do with hand tools if your CNC machine has broken
> down). I get the “vi is everywhere” argument, but for some considerable time
> now mainstream Linux distributions have been more likely to come with
> something like nano or pico, rather than vi, out of the box, so that doesn't
> really hold water anymore.
>
> Finally, on Linux, few people if any actually use *vi*, a very primitive
> editor by 21st-century standards, in their daily lives – even those people who
> *think* they're using vi generally use vim instead, which is a much more
> capable program that has about as much to do with vi as an F-16 has to do with
> a Piper Cub but is not part of the official LPIC curriculum.
>
> I've been at this business for quite some time and I realise that in spite of
> all this, the vi requirement isn't going away. I think of it as a bizarre
> hazing ritual that is being forced on newbies by the old hands in the spirit
> of “we had it bad, so by G*d you'll also have it bad”. There are lots of
> things more worth knowing about (and examining) than vi but there apparently
> needs to be some kind of disgusting tradition to separate the men from the
> boys, like you can't be an Army ranger if you haven't marched thirty miles per
> day for a week with nothing to eat but earthworms that you've caught yourself.
>
> Anselm
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