Hi Anton, 

On 4/6/18, 7:33 AM, "Anton Smirnov (asmirnov)" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi Acee,
        my answers below (I didn't vet them with other authors, so they may 
    express different opinions).
    
     >  1. Have you considered a shorter name for the RFC? For example: “OSPF
     >     Cross Address Family Traffic Engineering Tunnels”?
    
        Your proposed variant drops two pieces: "Routing with" and "MPLS". 
    Dropping mention to MPLS is fine with me. Dropping "Routing with" seems 
    to me less correct because the draft is about ways to compute routes and 
    not about setting up/managing tunnels.
        But ultimately I have no strong feelings here and if there is a 
    requirement to shorten document's name then that would be a good candidate.
    
    
     >  2. Can you change the requirements language text to the RFC 8174 
    version?
    
        OK, we will publish new document revision when we agreed on other 
    points.
    
    
     >  3. In the section 3 mapping algorithm, why do you walk the X-AF
     >     endpoints from all connected areas? Why not just the area of local
     >     IP address?
    
        Idea behind this wording is to cater for cases when area borders are 
    laid differently in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. It's even possible that router is 
    ABR in OSPFv2 but not OSPFv3. From network design perspective this, of 
    course, is a terrible thing to do - but not impossible.

I guess I still don't understand. Are you implying that you are advertising TE 
LSAs using both OSPFv2 and OSPFv3 and aggregating the TED and since the area 
boundaries may be different, you need to search all the areas LSP endpoints? I 
don't think this deployment model makes sense and I don't think this should be 
supported. 
    
    
     >  4. In the backward compatibility section, can you also discuss the
     >     requirements for backward compatibility of the endpoints? Also state
     >     that the X-AF tunnel will not be recognized unless the endpoints are
     >     advertised by the same protocol (OSPFv2 or OSPFv3); or describe the
     >     behavior if this is not the intension.
    
        We can add paragraph saying something like:
    "In order for XAF computation to work tunnel tailend routers MUST 
    advertise XAF Node Local Address sub-TLVs in OSPF instance that will 
    perform XAF computation. Thus only tunnel endpoints (both tunnel headend 
    and tailend routers) and only OSPF protocol instance performing XAF 
    routing must implement XAF as described in this document. Other routers 
    in the network do not need to implement XAF algorithm or interpret Node 
    Local Address sub-TLVs. For example, if network uses TE tunnels signaled 
    by OSPFv2 [RFC3630] and intends to use cross-AF route computation in 
    OSPFv3 then only OSPFv3 implementation on routers that serve as tunnel 
    endpoints in OSPFv2 needs to be compliant with this specification."
    
    Will this text work?

I think this could be a lot clearer if it were written from the perspective of 
the head-end router performing the calculation. Also, you lost me completely 
with the last sentence. We are uses a single protocol, OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 to 
advertise TE LSAs. Since both IPv4 and IPv6 traffic is tunneled over that LSP, 
there is no reason to operate both protocols since traffic will take the path 
of the X-AF LSP - correct? 

Thanks,
Acee 


    ---
    Anton
    
    
    On 04/04/18 20:13, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
    > Hi Anton, Alvaro, and Mike,
    > 
    > In preparation for WG last call, I have a couple comments.
    > 
    >  1. Have you considered a shorter name for the RFC? For example: “OSPF
    >     Cross Address Family Traffic Engineering Tunnels”?
    >  2. Can you change the requirements language text to the RFC 8174 version?
    >  3. In the section 3 mapping algorithm, why do you walk the X-AF
    >     endpoints from all connected areas? Why not just the area of local
    >     IP address?
    >  4. In the backward compatibility section, can you also discuss the
    >     requirements for backward compatibility of the endpoints? Also state
    >     that the X-AF tunnel will not be recognized unless the endpoints are
    >     advertised by the same protocol (OSPFv2 or OSPFv3); or describe the
    >     behavior if this is not the intension.
    > 
    > Thanks,
    > 
    > Acee
    > 
    

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