Hi Tony,

    Can you give some details about: what is the rate limiting link addition 
and how does it (the rate limiting link addition) fix or help fix the flooding 
topology (FT) split when multiple failures occur on FT?

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tony...@tony.li
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 1:38 PM
To: lsr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsr] Open issues with Dynamic Flooding


Hi all,

I hope that everyone had a safe and uneventful trip home from Prague and that 
no one else had the seat right in front of the screaming baby.  ;-)

I would like to re-open the discussion on the mailing list. Based on the 
off-line discussions that I had with folks, I believe that we’re leaning 
towards including the LANs in the signaling and rate limiting link addition 
during repair.

Dissent? Discussion?

Tony


> On Mar 4, 2019, at 9:54 AM, tony...@tony.li wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> There are still two issues that need to be discussed and I was hoping that we 
> could make progress on the mailing list before Prague.
> 
> 1) Temporary additions to the flooding topology
> 
>    There are several cases where we would like to make temporary additions to 
> the flooding topology: repairing a partition of the flooding topology or 
> adding a node to the base topology for the first time. We can:
> 
>    (a) Temporarily add all of the links that would appear to remedy the 
> partition. This has the advantage that it is very likely to heal the 
> partition and will do so in the minimal amount of convergence time.
> 
>    (b) For each node adjacent to the partition, add no more than a single 
> link across the partition.  If that does not repair the partition in a while 
> (LSP propagation time + SPF time), then add another link.  
>         Iterate as necessary. This has the advantage that it minimizes the 
> risk of creating a cascade failure.
> 
> 2) Inclusion of pseduonodes in the System IDs TLV
> 
>    In the general case, a topology can include LANs. If a LAN is in parallel 
> with a P2P link, the Area Leader cannot currently distinguish between the two 
> links. This can be of importance if there are other 
>    systems also on the LAN that should be using their LAN interface for 
> flooding.
> 
>    We propose to change the System IDs TLV to include a pseudo-node ID as 
> well as the system ID.  It would also make sense to rename the TLV to be the 
> “IS-IS Area Node IDs TLV”.
> 
>    Behaviorally, we should add a requirement that if the Area Leader includes 
> a pseudonode in the flooding topology, then all systems with an adjacency on 
> that LAN should use the LAN as part of the 
>    flooding topology, whether or not they are explicitly listed as adjacent 
> to the LAN in the Flooding Path TLV.
> 
> Thoughts? Comments? Flames?
> 
> Regards,
> Tony
> 

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