On 20/05/2020 00:37, Gyan Mishra wrote:



On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM Peter Psenak <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Gyan,

    On 19/05/2020 03:52, Gyan Mishra wrote:
     >
     > Flex algo is usually mentioned in the context of SR-TE to help
    reduced
     > SRH size to circumvent MSD issues for both SRV6 and SR-MPLS,

    though segment list reduction may be seen as one of the benefits of the
    flex-algo, it is certainly not the primary motivation behind it. The
    primary motivation of flex-algo is to provide dynamic any to any
    constrained based routing.

     > however can
     > the 0-127 flex algo extensions since it’s an IGP extension used
    in any
     > pure IP network independent of SR flavors SR-MPLS or SRv6.

    SR/SRv6 is used as a dataplane. Any data plane can be used, if it
    provides a way to route an algo specific traffic.


    Gyan> Please clarify.  I would think that since the flex algo capability is part of the IGP independent of the data plane is what you are saying, so any data plane can use the feature.

not really. You need to have a way to forward traffic for different algos over different paths.


So you are saying even if it can that their maybe a data plane specific algo awareness to be able to use or route the algo specific traffic.  So for example can native IPv4 or IPv6 date plane can it without any specific algo awareness can it utilitize flex algo constraint based steering.

if you have IP prefix P1 and you want to be able to send the traffic to it via 3 different paths via native IPv4 network how would you do that?

Also others mentioned is their special hooks or programming required to make it work with RSVP-TE or PPR.


I let RSVP experts to find a way how to use the flex-algo paths. I'm sure there are ways to do so :)

thanks,
Peter


     >
     > Also can flex algo be used in conjunction with RSVP-TE or
    PPR(preferred
     > path routing).

    same answer as above.

    thanks,
    Peter

     >
     > Kind regards
     >
     > Gyan
     >
     > On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:25 PM Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
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     >     Jeff, I see what you said, thank you for sharing information;____
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     >     *From:* Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]
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     >     *Cc:* Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]
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     >     *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo____
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     >     Weibin,____
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     >     One could have an algo with MSD/ERLD as optimizations constrains,
     >     would be quite similar to colored links. Note - ERLD has
    implemented
     >     node capabilities only, so all links on a node will have to be
     >     pruned.____
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     >     The tradeoffs are - having centralized controller with global
    view
     >     computing a path that meets the constraints(classical BGP-LS
    + PCEP
     >     scenario) vs building a dynamic topology of connected nodes that
     >     meet a set of constrains, in first case, change in
     >     topology/capabilities would cause path
    recalculation/reoptimization
     >     on the PCE while in the second - IGP would recompute the topology
     >     locally.____
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     >     Regards,____
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     >     Jeff____
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     >         On May 9, 2020, at 01:27, Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
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     >         Ketan, thank you for clarification.____
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     >         *From:* Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]
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     >         *Sent:* 2020年5月9日 14:52
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     >         *Subject:* RE: draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo____
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     >         Hi Wang,____
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     >         ____
     >
     >         You are correct. Though I wouldn’t call it a goal but
    rather a
     >         benefit/advantage – same applies to SR-MPLS where the label
     >         stack can be reduced.____
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     >         Thanks,____
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     >         Ketan____
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     >         *From:* Lsr <[email protected]
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     >         *On Behalf Of *Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
     >         *Sent:* 08 May 2020 19:07
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     >         *Subject:* [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo____
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     >         Hi authors:____
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     >         After reading through this draft lsr-flex-algo, I want to
    know
     >         whether there is a potential goal of this draft to reduce the
     >         SRH size with enabling flex-algo with admin group in SRv6
     >         deployment, because without flex-algo we have to have a
    big SRH
     >         size when the SRH include more SRv6 SIDs, if we enable
    flex-algo
     >         under special topology and link constraint condition, in
    theory
     >         we can even construct  a end to end SR path/tunnel
    without SRH,
     >         but it still meet TE requirement. So my question is
    whether the
     >         flex-algo can be used as tool to reduce SRH size?____
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     >         /Cheers !/____
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     > Gyan  Mishra
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     > Network Engineering & Technology
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     > Verizon
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     > Silver Spring, MD 20904
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