Hi Acee,

On 11/09/2021 16:59, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
Hi Peter,

On 9/10/21, 1:46 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" <[email protected] on 
behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

     Linda,

     On 09/09/2021 22:17, Linda Dunbar wrote:
     > Peter and Tony,
     >
     > Thank you very much for the explanation.
     >
     > Is it necessary to register with IANA on individual Flex-Algo value (a 
value between 128-255)?

     no.

But if the corresponding algorithm is in another standards track document, it 
would need to be registered and part of the standard range.

sure, the question was if "individual Flex-Algo value" needs to be registered and the answer to that is no. We have reserved the range of algos from 128 to 255 to flex-algos and there is no further IANA registration needed for those.

thanks,
Peter


Thanks,
Acee


     > Say there are 5 properties associated with the Stub link, one Flex algo 
uses weighted values of 4 properties, another Flex Algo uses Weighted values of 5 
properties. Can operator use any value they want? As long as the value is 
consistent among all nodes in one IGP domain?

     that is right.

     >
     > How is Calc-Type used, especially combined with Flex-Algo?

     we only have a single calculation type for now which is SPF. We added it
     for future if anyone wants to use a different one.


     >
     > Does the Flex-Algo type already indicate how  Metric are to be included in the 
algorithm? Why need to explicit indicate the "Metric-Type" in the FAD Sub-TLV?

     It's the Calc-Type which indicates how metric is used. Metric-Type
     indicates which metric is used.

     thanks,
     Peter

     >
     >
     > Linda
     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: Peter Psenak <[email protected]>
     > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 1:00 PM
     > To: Tony Li <[email protected]>; Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
     > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
     > Subject: Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo
     >
     > Hi Linda, Tony,
     >
     >
     > On 09/09/2021 19:37, Tony Li wrote:
     >>
     >>
     >> Hi Linda,
     >>
     >> Algorithm types 128-255 are intended to be used with the constraints
     >> that are advertised inside of a FlexAlgo definition.
     >>
     >> I think what you're proposing is not captured there, so you would need
     >> to have a defined algorithm from 2-127.
     >
     > eventually, the usage of the "weighted value of a Stub Link property"
     > can be added to the FAD and be used with flex-algo.
     >
     > thanks,
     > Peter
     >
     >
     >>
     >> Tony
     >>
     >>
     >>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Linda Dunbar <[email protected]
     >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
     >>>
     >>> Peter,
     >>>
     >>> draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-17 currently has registered Algorithm Types
     >>> 128-255 with IANA.
     >>> If we need to add a new Algorithm Type, e.g. using a weighted value
     >>> of a Stub Link property in calculating the shortest path, do we need
     >>> to use one of the value within 128-255 or need to ask IANA to assign
     >>> one of the values within 2-127 (currently shown unassigned on IANA 
page)?
     >>>
     >>> Linda Dunbar
     >>>
     >>> -----Original Message-----
     >>> From: Lsr <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On
     >>> Behalf Of Peter Psenak
     >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 7:52 AM
     >>> To:[email protected]
     >>> <mailto:[email protected]>;[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo
     >>>
     >>> Hi Bruno,
     >>>
     >>> On 09/09/2021 14:43, [email protected]
     >>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
     >>>> Hi authors, all,
     >>>>
     >>>> I have a question related to the two-way connectivity check
     >>>> performed on each link during the FlexAlgo SPF.
     >>>
     >>> flex-algo is defined as set of:
     >>>
     >>> (a) calculation-type
     >>> (b) metric-type,
     >>> (c) a set of constraints
     >>>
     >>> Two way connectivity check for any link in the MT topology is
     >>> orthogonal to flex-algo and is done once only and used for all 
algorithms.
     >>>
     >>> Flex-algo calculation using (a), (b), and (c) is done on top of MT
     >>> topology using only links for which the 2WCC has already been 
performed.
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>>
     >>>> Is this point documented in the document? I could not find it so far.
     >>>> If not, what is the (reverse connectivity) check that need to be
     >>>> performed on the reverse link?
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> none.
     >>>
     >>> thanks,
     >>> Peter
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>>
     >>>> A priori I could see multiple options:
     >>>> a) link exist
     >>>> b) link exist with a standard IGP metric  (seem the option defined
     >>>> in the ISO spec §7.2.8.2)
     >>>> c) link exist with the FlexAlgo metric used by FlexAlgo
     >>>> d) link exist with the FlexAlgo metric used by FlexAlgo and link
     >>>> complies to FlexAlgo constraints.
     >>>>
     >>>> I think we'll agree that this point requires uniformity across nodes
     >>>> hence standardization.
     >>>>
     >>>> Personally, I don't have significant preference, but the algo
     >>>> defined in §13 "Calculation of Flexible Algorithm Paths" could be
     >>>> read as defining option "d" (as links not following the constraints
     >>>> are "pruned from the computation") but I'm not sure that this is
     >>>> intended for the two-way connectivity check.
     >>>>
     >>>> Thanks,
     >>>> Regards,
     >>>> --Bruno
     >>>>
     >>>>
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