Thank you for the update Acee.  If I am required to make the change before 
the RFC gets updated (which sounds like it could be a while) I'd like to 
pick terms that are likely to line up with what it eventually changes to 
but at this point I'd be guessing.  The usual suggested substitutions 
along the lines of manager/worker don't seem to work well considering how 
the database exchange works, so I'm thinking if it's up to me I change it 
to speaker/responder but I'd like to get feedback on the terms others are 
using.. if any other OSPF products have tackled this already I'd be 
curious what terms they adopted. 

Mike
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From:   "Acee Lindem (acee)" <a...@cisco.com>
To:     "Mike Fox" <mj...@us.ibm.com>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>
Date:   11/16/2021 04:10 PM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology 
in OSPF



The IETF is already applying these standards to new documents. 

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-terminology-07.txt 


At some point, I'd expect that someone with the time and energy will 
produce a single document that updates all the existing documents using 
the updated terminology. At least that would be my preference since doing 
BIS versions of all these documents is not desirable unless this is being 
done for other purposes. For example, it would not make sense to do an RFC 
2328 BIS unless we were going to also correct all the Errata and go 
through a full review cycle. 

Thanks,
Acee

On 11/16/21, 3:55 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Mike Fox" <lsr-boun...@ietf.org 
on behalf of mj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

    Many companies in the industry including mine are undergoing 
initiatives 
    to replace offensive terminology in IT.  One of the targeted terms is 
    master/slave, which is used in OSPF database exchange and the terms 
appear 
    in various documentation and displays for our OSPF routing daemon. I'm 

    still waiting on guidance on whether or not  industry-standard terms 
get a 
    pass, but it's not looking good.  Has anyone else encountered this 
issue 
    and if so how have you handled it? If I'm going to need to change to 
    terminology that does not match the RFC I'd like to be consistent with 

    what others are doing. 

    Thank you,
    Mike
 
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