Les,

> You are not retaining scalability. You are damaging it. You are proposing 
> flooding a prefix per router that fails. If there is a mass failure, that 
> would result in flooding a large number of prefixes. The last thing you want 
> when there is a mass failure is additional load, exacerbating the situation.
>  
> [LES2:] It is reasonable to limit the rate of pulses sent. Peter has already 
> indicated in an earlier reply that we will address that in a future version 
> of the event-notification draft.  So, good point – and we are in agreement 
> regarding mass failure.


The fact that you have to limit the result is a pretty clear indication that 
this is not architecturally appropriate.


> You are signaling the (lack of) liveness of a remote node. I propose that we 
> instead use existing signaling mechanisms to do this. Multi-hop BFD seems 
> like an obvious choice.
> [LES2:] Conceptually this works. But I don’t think it scales.


How so? Doesn’t this correspond 1:1 with overlay BGP sessions?


> If you greatly dislike that for some reason, I would suggest that we create a 
> proxy liveness service, advertised by the ABR. This would allow 
> correspondents to register for notifications. The ABR could signal these 
> unicast when it determines that the specific targets are unreachable.
>  
> [LES:] This would be a significant effort to provide such a service.
> Granted, implementation of “pulse” is also a significant effort – so I am not 
> objecting to your idea simply based on that. I am just pointing out that what 
> you propose does not currently exist – so if you are serious about this 
> alternative you need to provide the details.


Fear of hard work does not make it the IGP’s problem. 

I am not the one with the issue. Those with the issue should propose the 
details. At most, the IGP should carry a capability for this service.

Tony


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